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  • shootuadeal

    Isn't Wolfe City Nunns stomping grounds? I could be wrong.

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  • KenK/84Bravo

    Wow. Ex-Jailer/Sheriff and Ex-LEO in Prison, having wrongfully shot/killed a Black guy. He is not going to be having a good time.

    Sorry about the guy (Jonathon Price) being shot and killed, sounded like he was trying to do the right thing. (However ill advised)

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  • kimi
    I don't think this report is as clear as it could be, but it certainly does not look good for the young officer.
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  • serf
     Too young and inexperience to be alone on duty but then they can't have two officers in the car to respond any longer because of funding.  Shooting a taser is not a deterrent in some cases and can escalate the situation.   He is toast. The black guy should have just sit down and waited, he would have possibly been alive today. You can beat the rap but not the ride comes to mind.
                                                    serf
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  • grdad45

    Isn't Wolfe City Nunns stomping grounds? I could be wrong.

    Nunn posted about it several days ago. 


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  • chiefr
    kimi said:
    I don't think this report is as clear as it could be, but it certainly does not look good for the young officer.
    Again, you are spot on kimi, the article as read is an opinion piece filled with speculation.
    Sadly and having said that, speculation and opinion is what passes as news these days. Activism had replaced Journalism and no one trusts the media.

    For those who want fact, wait until you see or read actual findings from the Hunt County Grand Jury.
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  • David Nunn
    The trial will be interesting.  I'll be watching.  

    TV stations sent news crews here to cover the City Council meeting during which Lucas was officially fired.  My little bride addressed the council and one of the reporters, and her remarks were aired on several stations.  She urged the Council to NEVER hire another rookie officer, but to insist on a new hire having several years of experience.

    I agree.  There are lots of eligible-to-retire officers who wouldn't mind a very low stress job to augment their retirement pay.
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  • nmyers
    I think that it's a little early to start planning how to reorganize the local PD. 
    Not hire rookies?  Every LEO started as a rookie, not an experienced veteran.  Better keep in mind the "law of unintended consequences".  There's a big pool of "experienced veterans" out there who you won't know are reckless hot heads who were fired or allowed to resign due to performance problems, such as shooting innocent civilians, until the first time they show that they have a problem that their previous employer kept secret.  Small jurisdictions either need to vet & train ALL their LEOs correctly, or they should close the office & ask the state to take care of LE for them.
    Small departments on Maryland's Eastern Shore got together & created their own academy:
    Graduates are highly sought as rookies by many PD's.
    Neal

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  • bpost
    Rookies need to ride along with a veteran officer for at least 12 months before being cut loose on the streets alone.  Stress does strange things to people and a 12 month ride along with a certified training officer can make a so-so cop into a public servant of the first order but, it takes training and weeding out the ones that can't cut it.
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  • Butchdog2
    Point to take. We were not here and in his situation.
    Does sound bad but we may never why things went as they did.
    Fake news sites do enough speculation of their own.
    Repeat an opinion enough the it will become fact. 2 cents.
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  • David Nunn
    There's a whole bunch of "shoulds" above this, shoulds that will never come to be.  Wolfe City is a town of 1400 or so people, with a budget for 3 officers.  Even if there was a Field Training program, there isn't call volume enough to train a rookie.  We can, if we try, properly vet any prospective hire, whether rookie or veteran.  

    Were I the Chief or the Mayor, which I'm not and glad of it, I would tell the officers, "I don't care if you ever write a ticket or make any arrests other than felonies. What I care about is keeping the peace. And someone will be on duty, all night, every night, keeping watch for fires, vandalism, and burglaries." Boring duty to be sure, but necessary.

    And I would try to hire retirees from other departments, people with 20-30 years of service, and 45-60 years of age. People drawing a pension from their previous employment, and who wouldn't mind making modest salary here to augment it.
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  • SCOUT5
    nunn said:
    There's a whole bunch of "shoulds" above this, shoulds that will never come to be.  Wolfe City is a town of 1400 or so people, with a budget for 3 officers.  Even if there was a Field Training program, there isn't call volume enough to train a rookie.  We can, if we try, properly vet any prospective hire, whether rookie or veteran.  

    Were I the Chief or the Mayor, which I'm not and glad of it, I would tell the officers, "I don't care if you ever write a ticket or make any arrests other than felonies. What I care about is keeping the peace. And someone will be on duty, all night, every night, keeping watch for fires, vandalism, and burglaries." Boring duty to be sure, but necessary.

    And I would try to hire retirees from other departments, people with 20-30 years of service, and 45-60 years of age. People drawing a pension from their previous employment, and who wouldn't mind making modest salary here to augment it.
    There are a lot of small police districts like this across America.   Something people from larger places often do not understand.  Programs and systems that work for large departments are not feasible for these small districts.   Your system of hiring experienced officers is most likely the best approach.  Providing you can find the them to hire.
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  • roswellnative
    My .02. If you obey what an officer says chances are slim you get him to shoot you. I must say that I wouldn’t want the job for all the tea in China. 
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  • kimi
    nunn said:
    The trial will be interesting.  I'll be watching.  

    TV stations sent news crews here to cover the City Council meeting during which Lucas was officially fired.  My little bride addressed the council and one of the reporters, and her remarks were aired on several stations.  She urged the Council to NEVER hire another rookie officer, but to insist on a new hire having several years of experience.

    I agree.  There are lots of eligible-to-retire officers who wouldn't mind a very low stress job to augment their retirement pay.
    I agree with Dawnie as well.  Absolutely solid advice.
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