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Anyone but her!

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  • Butchdog2
    Was that a mouth full?
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  • Nanuq907
    "Anyone" but her???  Sorry, I think I'll support the strong Christian woman who walks the talk.


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  • Butchdog2
    She needs to be confirmed just as quickly as possible.
    She may be the last chance for the original constitution.
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  • NeoBlackdog
    I'm no psychologist, SS, but what you're describing sounds a lot like paranoid delusion to me.  

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  • Don McManus

    Picking your own mushrooms requires a little training.

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  • SoreShoulder
    Nanuq907 said:
    "Anyone" but her???  Sorry, I think I'll support the strong Christian woman who walks the talk.

    Believe some "strong Christians" believe in slavery.

    Edit:  I am not referring to support for the Confederacy but to a practice which I suppose exists unofficially within some churches, which makes sure that some people wind up teaching or doing ministry.
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  • nmyers
    I am sure that I would heartily approve of what you said, if only I knew what you are talking about.  What you have said was probably as incomprehensible to me as that which we have said sounded to you.
    Neal
    "You may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you."  -----  Neal
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  • SoreShoulder
    Butchdog2 said:
    She may be the last chance for the original constitution.
    I am not sympathetic to the Confederacy or its constitution.

    Edit:  I am only sarcastically referencing the Confederacy.  I am not referring to Christians who support white supremacy or the Confederate states of America but to a practice which I suppose exists, which makes sure that some people wind up teaching or doing ministry.
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  • SoreShoulder
    I don't know any of the players involved in the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh but it all reminds me of this, now that you mention it.   It occurred to one at the time that maybe pressure was kept on the likes of Christine Blasey-Ford to provide services such as schoolteaching services in exchange for protection.  
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  • mac10
    sorry that post needs psyciatric medication?
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  • KenK/84Bravo

    Ho Buoy...............................................................................🤦‍♂️

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  • 4205raymond
    Say What ???????????????????????????????
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  • KenK/84Bravo

    "I am not sympathetic to the Confederacy or its constitution."

    -Soreshoulder-


    Well Bless Your Heart. It is not your fault you were born on the wrong side of the fence. The South did not fight the War of Northern Aggression over Slavery, they fought the War over undue Taxation and the North trying to impose their Will (against the Constitution I might add.) against the South.

    Kimi will probably chime in here somewhere about all the rules/Laws that Abraham Lincoln pushed aside in his push for an illegal War, killing more Americans than many Wars since.

    Perhaps you should brush up on your History.



    Oh, ......................and take your Meds. 😉

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  • Grunt2
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  • Brookwood

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  • Butchdog2
    Right on 84. Ole Abe was not all that against slavery, just happened to be the right fuel for his fire.
    And just for those you might think that I am for slavery you are badly mistaken.

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  • SoreShoulder
    KenK/84Bravo said:Well Bless Your Heart. It is not your fault you were born on the wrong side of the fence. The South did not fight the War of Northern Aggression over Slavery, they fought the War over undue Taxation and the North trying to impose their Will (against the Constitution I might add.) against the South.
    Edit: just to be clear, I only made a sarcastic reference to the Confederate states because I wanted to say "oh, you must mean the Confederate constitution."  But as long as we're talking about it:

     I'm going with they realized they didn't really need the North because they were the side of the country making all the money. 

    Lincoln was not the start of everything.  His personal positions don't prove terribly much about all the people who elected him.
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  • jimdeere
    Civil War discussions usually get poofed. 
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  • Butchdog2
    Oops, sorry.
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  • Nanuq907
    Believe some "strong Christians" believe in slavery.
    None that I've ever met, anywhere in the world, over the last 50 years of ministry in music, puppetry, teaching through Vacation Bible School and Bible Study Fellowship.  Not one person, ever, anywhere.  And I've taught in extremely bigoted and racist eskimo communities that HATE the white devil, and they themselves don't believe in subjugating other tribes, while adhering to Christian faith.  It's weird out in the Bush.  Do you have any kind of hard evidence or is it all anecdotal?  
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  • SoreShoulder
    Nanuq907 said:
    Believe some "strong Christians" believe in slavery.
    None that I've ever met, anywhere in the world, over the last 50 years of ministry in music, puppetry, teaching through Vacation Bible School and Bible Study Fellowship.  Not one person, ever, anywhere.  And I've taught in extremely bigoted and racist eskimo communities that HATE the white devil, and they themselves don't believe in subjugating other tribes, while adhering to Christian faith.  It's weird out in the Bush.  Do you have any kind of hard evidence or is it all anecdotal?  
    I am not talking about the Confederacy or the modern practice of actual slavery in, say, African gold mines.  It is my suspicion that some religious school systems may have a "schoolteacher track" which involves leaving key things out of one's education so they go out and fail and get offered a job teaching at a reduced rate.

    I suppose that sometimes the hierarchy of a parish or diocese is lacking in courage because they are financially dependent on the rank and file parishioner.  In some cases they might prefer to kowtow to the needs of their parish instead of exerting leadership based on what they say the Church derives its authority from, i.e. scripture and tradition.

    I suppose that a coalition of the more established families of the parish can start to exert influence which channels other members into tracks which benefit the main families.  The priests can serve to validate the authority of the "core gang" by providing quasi-moral justifications.  For example, there is a teaching that need makes right but it can be abused to mean that if they need lower teaching bills then they are justified in trying to pressure the donation of one's career. 

    They could also  use the bond we all share as members of the same faith, to go around and demonstrate how holdouts are to be treated, such as by showing that when it becomes clear I didn't donate my career, all attention being shown to me must vanish.  
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  • jimdeere
    Well, ok, then.
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  • SoreShoulder
    I think the Black Sabbath song "The Writ" is about being pressured into ministry by such a system, even though the official version is that it is about the band's relationship with a manager. 

    It's easy to assume that when Tony Iommi tried to be a factory worker, they saw to it that an accident mangled one of his hands, to block him from a secular life and further trap him in ministry, and oh, look at that, they drove them all the way out of the Church.

    Why did they become Satanists?  Perhaps because none of their former friends would speak to them anymore if they didn't donate their lives to ministry in order to apply pressure?  And perhaps the Anglicans around them have an understanding with the Catholics not to interfere?  I don't know if they're even former Catholics but it's easy to assume based on the surname of the lead guitarist.

    Perhaps the core families of their parish did not see these guys becoming a big part of anyone of their lives or contributing in a big enough way, so they were set aside for service?  Perhaps they were experimenting with drugs or alternative lifestyles or something else which rendered them unsuitable in the eyes of the parish to marry and raise kids?  Or perhaps those stumbling blocks were deliberately cast in their path to render them unsuitable for marriage and family so the parish would feel justified in having their way with them?

    The "Faithful image of another man" lyric may refer to their distaste at being required by their parish to act as a stand-in for the Savior, which is what a priest is supposed to be.

    The way I feel is the way I am
    I wish I'd walked before I started to run to you
    Just to you

    What kind of people do you think we are?
    Another joker who's a rock and roll star for you
    Just for you

    The faithful image of another man
    The endless ocean of emotion I swam for you
    Yeah for you

    The shot troopers laying down on the floor
    I wish they'd put an end to my running war with you
    Yeah with you

    Are you metal, are you man?
    You've changed in life since you began
    Yeah began

    Ladies digging gold from you

    Will they still dig now you're through
    Yeah you're through

    You bought and sold me with your lying words
    The voices in the deck that you never heard came through
    Yeah came through

    Your folly finally got to spend with a gun
    A poisoned father who has poisoned his son, that's you
    Yeah that's you

    I beg you please don't let it get any worse
    The anger I once had has turned to a curse on you
    Yeah curse you

    All of the promises that never came true
    You're gonna get what is coming to you, that's true
    Ah, that's true

    Are you Satan, are you man?
    You've changed in life since it began
    It began

    Vultures sucking gold from you
    Will they still suck now you're through

    (Cats, Rats)

    The search is on, so you just better run
    And find yourself another way
    Probably dead, they don't feel a thing
    To keep them living for another day

    (Rats, Rat)

    You are nonentity, you have no destiny
    You are a victim of a thing unknown
    A mantle picture of a stolen soul
    A fornication of your golden throne


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  • Don McManus
    When one wallows in their own crapulance, they do not emerge covered in ulance.

    Not Confucius

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  • Brookwood

    Late Lament

    Breathe deep the gathering gloom
    Watch lights fade from every room
    Bedsitter people look back and lament
    Another day's useless energy is spent
    Impassioned lovers wrestle as one;
    Lonely man cries for love and has none
    New mother picks up and suckles her son
    Senior citizens wish they were young

    Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
    Removes the colours from our sight
    Red is grey is yellow white
    But we decide which is right
    And which is an illusion


    With this quote, I can only add that the world we live in today is ...... ..

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  • SoreShoulder
    Don't bring me dowwwn, 
    No, No, No, No, No.
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  • Don McManus
    Ripple in still water
    When there is no pebble tossed
    Nor wind to blow

    Reach out your hand if your cup be empty
    If your cup is full may it be again
    Let it be known there is a fountain
    That was not made by the hands of men

    There is a road, no simple highway
    Between the dawn and the dark of night
    And if you go no one may follow
    That path is for your steps alone

    Ripple in still water
    When there is no pebble tossed
    Nor wind to blow


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  • SoreShoulder
    There's only one answer for that attention wandering answer:
    "Ritalin is pretty, Ritalin is good, seems like all it ever wanted was a market."
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  • Don McManus
    https://newrepublic.com/article/159512/amy-coney-barrett-wants-felons-guns-not-votes

    The lone dissenting judge was Barrett. In a 38-page dissent, she argued that history and practice from the founding era showed that the Framers did not intend to deny gun ownership to all felons, just those who could be dangerous. “Neither Wisconsin nor the United States has introduced data sufficient to show that disarming all nonviolent felons substantially advances its interest in keeping the public safe,” she wrote. “Nor have they otherwise demonstrated that Kanter himself shows a proclivity for violence. Absent evidence that he either belongs to a dangerous category or bears individual markers of risk, permanently disqualifying Kanter from possessing a gun violates the Second Amendment.”

    Federal appeals courts are bound to follow the Supreme Court’s precedents in any given case. But when it comes to the Second Amendment, those precedents are far from settled. In the 2008 case D.C. v. Heller, the court ruled for the first time that the Second Amendment protected an individual right to bear arms unrelated to any militia function. Two years later, in McDonald v. Chicago, the court held that the Second Amendment’s protections also apply to state laws. The two decisions marked a sea change in how the courts interpreted the right to bear arms and cast doubt on a wide swath of gun-related restrictions nationwide.


    By incorporation through Due Process, Heller and McDonald have transformed the 2nd Amendment (substantially) into a collective right.  In the highlighted section above, Barrett has succinctly expressed the individual liberty ensconced in the 2nd Amendment, and puts her on a much higher plain than her mentor, Scalia.



     

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  • SoreShoulder
    What could be the goal for someone to do this if their parents were well off enough to send them to a well-funded private school?  

    What if the voters could throw them out of their job if they didn't get the low cost help they want?

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