What do you think of this pistol caliber carbine?
I’m not in the market for one and don’t know much about PCC’s.
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Isn't that a SBR? 0 -
nope it has the brace on a pistol price is right for the current times 0 -
Ok, I see now. After I enlarged the pics, I can see it's a brace. At first it looked like a collapsible stock. Yes, the price isn't bad yet. I have almost that much in my PSA 5.56 pistol, that I bought three years ago.mac10 said:nope it has the brace on a pistol price is right for the current times0 -
Gonna go way up from $600 in current market.
I own two PCC's. One is a Marlin Camp 9, the other is a Kel-Tec Sub2K in .40cal.
Love them both.
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Well, it's got Pica-tinny frame addons, so that's pretty cool...
What kind of mags does it take?0 -
I remember looking at those at the 2018 SHOT Show when they cost about $400, but show me any firearms currently selling for what they used to.
It's all polymer, so you either lover plastic or it's an automatic dealer breaker. The barrel length is (I think) 7 inches, which is about the minimum for these little guys. If you want a 4 inch barrel "carbine/pistol" you might as well carry a conventional 9 mm handgun, which is a lot easier to handle. It uses Glock magazines, which is a huge plus as Colt Magazines are way expensive. I didn't care for the cheap plastic forearm at all, although it might be possible to switch it for a steel quad-rail. The big bugbear for me is the pistol brace which does not use a standard AR receiver extension...AKA "tube." The rear end cap on the receiver is proprietary, which means that you can't simply unscrew the castle nut and switch the brace/stock components around for those that you like better. The tube is short, so the LOP is equally short meaning that the pistol is not especially easy to shoulder...which you are not supposed to do in the first place
I thought they were a decent buy at $400, but I'm less impressed at $600. Of course the current firearms situation is nothing like it was two years ago, so your mileage may vary.0 -
*Minor possible correction Mr. Christian-
ATF changed their stance and last I heard it was “legal” to shoulder a pistol brace.
ATF Clarifies Ruling on Pistol Stabilizing Braces | Sig Sauer
Sig Sauer ATF Clarifies Ruling on Pistol Stabilizing Braces. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial users.Im not a PCC guy so they could have changed again in the last few years and I wouldn’t know. For what its worth- to be legal in USPSA it has to be a “rifle” to be USPSA legal.
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I've heard those are decent.
You might go direct though and save a few bucks. Out of stock but worth finding out when they will have more.
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Takedown PC 40 Ruger for the same money. Glock Mags 0 -
Me shooting my Ruger PC 9:
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I have one and it shoots great. I purchased mine manufacture direct and with shipping and transfer fees it was a little over four and a half bills. 3 -
A Mac 10 left me not liking carbon sprayed in my face. Do all direct blowback carbines spray carbon in the face of lefthanded shooters?
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Captplaid said:
A Mac 10 left me not liking carbon sprayed in my face. Do all direct blowback carbines spray carbon in the face of lefthanded shooters?
I haven't noticed that with my Ruger or really any gun for that matter shooting left hand.0 -
Have wanted one of those for awhile. 0 -
I have an AR9 "pistol" and can attest to the accuracy and handling advantages of such a package. The 10.5" barreled "house gun" is 29.5" long with the SB brace completely collapsed and a Torrent T9K suppressor mounted. If making another of these, I'd use a 7-7.5" barrel. I'm finding it difficult to keep even 147 grain bullets sub-sonic with the 10.5 barrel. 0 -
Looked at many AR 9s and settled on the Keltec Sub 2000. Love it and it is super accurate up to 15 yard. 0 -
I have a KelTec Sub 2000 with the G19 magwell so it shares mags with my pistol.....I like it a lot. 0 -
"Love it and it is super accurate up to 15 yard. "
Did you miss a zero in that range comment?3 -
I went the Sub-2000 route also, but mine is in .40. It's the shorter gripped version that can take G23 mags.mohawk600 said:I have a KelTec Sub 2000 with the G19 magwell so it shares mags with my pistol.....I like it a lot.
I mounted an Ultradot sight on it with QD mounts and a Grip Pod vertical foregrip.
It's surprisingly accurate well past 15 yards!
I did have problems with it right out of the box. It wouldn't feed or extract properly so I spent about 30 seconds working over the chamber with some polishing compound on a felt Dremel bit and now it runs flawlessly.3 -
Nice............NeoBlackdog said:
I went the Sub-2000 route also, but mine is in .40. It's the shorter gripped version that can take G23 mags.mohawk600 said:I have a KelTec Sub 2000 with the G19 magwell so it shares mags with my pistol.....I like it a lot.
I mounted an Ultradot sight on it with QD mounts and a Grip Pod vertical foregrip.
It's surprisingly accurate well past 15 yards!
I did have problems with it right out of the box. It wouldn't feed or extract properly so I spent about 30 seconds working over the chamber with some polishing compound on a felt Dremel bit and now it runs flawlessly.0 -
I remain fond of the PSA 9 mm carbines/pistols:
Both use Glock magazines and are a lot of fun to shoot. "Pistols" can't use front grips (top), so a handstop (bottom) is the solution.3 -
Strike Industries Link handstops are excellent. 0 -
PCC's are a lot of fun. I've got a Marlin Camp 9 and Camp 45 as well as Ruger .44 mag carbine (original model). My next one will be the 10mm one that the name escapes me at the moment. They are a bit niche for practicality, but as mentioned are fun to shoot. 0
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