Marshal Dillon
just got shot in the left arm, again
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That's maybe over 100 times I think. 0 -
Hope he saved the lead. 0 -
Just winged him.
Getting shot in the shoulder or arm with a .45 Colt would shatter bones but in the old west movies it was just a minor flesh wound.0 -
Doc says it went though, Kitty is taking care of the wound. 0 -
oh the good old westerns
as a kid I started to think being shot was not that big of deal unless there was no blood or hole in your shirt and you were the bad guy of course they always died with no visible signs LOL ,
also when John W would get shot he would just shove a kerchief in the hole or use it to wrap around a arm or leg for a day or two then back to the fight maybe a splash of whisky on the wound and a couple swallows .
speaking of it was amazing how fast a shot of whisky would have effect on all the old westerns . sorry bob here have a drink and bite down on this stick then I am going to cut your leg off with this dull knife I waved over the fire and sprinkled with whiskey on ,, what was that " no never did it before but I did stay at a holiday express "0 -
Yes, in the old Westerns, a shot to the shoulder, or to the hand, was no big deal. "Flesh wound." I just watched "Red River" and the guy who was stealing sugar and caused the stampede, one man was killed. John Wayne was going to whip him with a bullwhip and the guy was drawing on John Wayne, and Montgomery Clift shot the sugar thief in the hand, blew his Colt out of his hand, which saved his life, because John Wayne would have shot him right between the eyes.
And John said "You shot him you fix him up." I guess Walter Brennan had a surgical suite in the back of that chuck wagon. I guess Montgomery Clift had gotten a medical degree during the Civil War.
I got a job as a paramedic and we were based at a hospital. I not only treated patients in the field, but I worked on them in the ER. I got to look at the xrays. Bullets show up very well on xrays.
And I learned that just "winging" somebody in the shoulder is usually a big deal. The lungs go way up there, so you can have a collapsed lung. The subclavian artery runs through there, put a bullet through that and you will die. And of course you have the shoulder blade and the collar bone. Repairing those bones is a real mess. I am not sure how many bone surgeons were living near The Ponderosa in 1870.
As for the hand, there are about 20 little bones in the hand. You catch a .45 slug in the hand in Dodge City in 1875, you would be crippled for life, which would be pretty short if you died of gangrene a week later.0 -
They were strictly entertainment, not documentaries. I enjoyed them as a kid and still am as an old guy. 0 -
Matt also buried many even out on the prairie.
He preferred to wrap a blanket around them. He must have had access to lots of blankets and maybe one of them fold up military shovels. Sometimes he would just cover them with a pile of rocks on top of the ground. Around here possums, coons and coyotes would enjoy that meal.
Instead of burying Josy Wales says "No need in burying. Worms have to eat also"
If Matt was around today none of them FRIENDLY riots would be taking place. Matt shoots to kill.
No friendly fire from Matt.0 -
"No need in burying. Worms have to eat also"
No, he said "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."3 -
Gunsmoke is my Go-To show these days.Favorites are the first couple years when the intro has Matt walking through Boot Hill.Doc was very sarcastic and ball busting and Miss Kitty was some hot stuff.Matt would b-slap or punch some jerk just because he deserved it.
Those were the days......
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allen griggs: 31543753480219/comments/31543755498651
"No need in burying. Worms have to eat also"
No, he said "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."After he spit bacer juice on em'.
Like when he spit bacer juice on the dude in the white suit at the river crossing. "Sounds like it does about everything. (Spit) How is it on stains?" 😂
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I remember an old brown dog getting it between the eyes too, gotta wonder if the dog ever thought of wetting down his blanket at night............. 0 -
Just for clarification, it was James Arness not John Wayne,.. I just watched it AGAIN also. God I love those 50s-early 60s westerns but I think I have seen them all.allen griggs said:Yes, in the old Westerns, a shot to the shoulder, or to the hand, was no big deal. "Flesh wound." I just watched "Red River" and the guy who was stealing sugar and caused the stampede, one man was killed. John Wayne was going to whip him with a bullwhip and the guy was drawing on John Wayne, and Montgomery Clift shot the sugar thief in the hand, blew his Colt out of his hand, which saved his life, because John Wayne would have shot him right between the eyes.
And John said "You shot him you fix him up." I guess Walter Brennan had a surgical suite in the back of that chuck wagon. I guess Montgomery Clift had gotten a medical degree during the Civil War.
I got a job as a paramedic and we were based at a hospital. I not only treated patients in the field, but I worked on them in the ER. I got to look at the xrays. Bullets show up very well on xrays.
And I learned that just "winging" somebody in the shoulder is usually a big deal. The lungs go way up there, so you can have a collapsed lung. The subclavian artery runs through there, put a bullet through that and you will die. And of course you have the shoulder blade and the collar bone. Repairing those bones is a real mess. I am not sure how many bone surgeons were living near The Ponderosa in 1870.
As for the hand, there are about 20 little bones in the hand. You catch a .45 slug in the hand in Dodge City in 1875, you would be crippled for life, which would be pretty short if you died of gangrene a week later.0 -
After catching 2 rds in Vietnam I learned why cowboys covered a wounded person with a blanket even out in the desert after they were shot. With heavy bleeding it's like sitting at the North Pole in the winter stark-ass naked and uncontrollable shaking 
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I worked with a guy back in the 70s that found that out the hard way. His wife had left him and he thought if he shot himself to make it look like attempted suicide she might come back home. So he shot himself with a .22 rifle up away from his heart toward his right shoulder and much to his surprise it was bad, really bad and he could hardly breath and thought he really had committed suicide. He called an ambulance and they got him to the hospital and he survived the ordeal but it was not a good time. Besides that his wife never came back home either. It just confirmed what she had said all along that he was a stupid idiot.allen griggs said:And I learned that just "winging" somebody in the shoulder is usually a big deal. The lungs go way up there, so you can have a collapsed lung.3 -
I love the first 6 years or so of Gunsmoke. It started going downhill until Chester left and Festus arrived. I hate the later years in which Festus is the main character and Dillon only appears in the first few minutes as he is leaving town. 0 -
there were two movies titled Red River 1948 with John Wayne and a remake in 1988 with James Arness 0 -
"So he shot himself with a .22 rifle up away from his heart toward his right shoulder and much to his surprise it was bad, really bad and he could hardly breath and thought he really had committed suicide. He called an ambulance and they got him to the hospital and he survived the ordeal but it was not a good time."
That's right. He had watched too many episodes of Bonanza.
And he also learned something that I learned in 14 years working in the hospital. Don't knock the .22 LR
It is a vicious man-killer.
Your co worker had a collapsed lung and the ER doc had to insert a "chest tube." I watched this being done many times it was always fascinating. Sometimes from a car wreck or stabbing but usually from a GSW.
The chest tube is about 3/4 inch diameter and 18 inches long. Doc makes a 1 1/2 inch long incision with the scalpel between the ribs, on the side where the lung is collapsed. And he sets that big tube next to the incision, and he shoves it in there about 6 inches deep.
You ought to see that patient squeal when the chest tube is inserted! Damn, it hurts to watch!0 -
Allen I can tell you one even worse. I had a friend that kept his old .44 Mag Ruger Black Hawk under his mattress. One evening he was changing sheets on his bed and when he pulled the sheet out the gun hit the floor on the hammer and BOOM right through the chest. It was an old single action Black Hawk that didn't have the transfer bar. It was a miricle that the hollow point didn't open. He said he was lying on the floor and could hear the neighbors that had come in. One of the said "it looks like he's a goner" He lived out in the boonies in KY and they couldn't find the keys to his car to take him to the hospital and it took forever for the ambulance to get there. He said the last thing he remembered was the doctor shoving something into his chest. He didn't wake up until 2 days later he said.
He showed me where the bullet entered his chest and where it exited out of his shoulder blade in the rear. Man I don't see how it missed his heart and also how it didn't blow a giant hole out the back going through the shoulder blade. Maybe god said "I'll teach you a lesson and I'll let you survive in order for you to show others what an idiot you are so they don't put their single action revolver under their mattress also".0 -
I can vouch for a chest tube hurting . long story but fast forward the doc came in my hospital room , said well we have to insert a chest tube to drain your chest cavity and its going to hurt sorry we not going to knock you out I think because I had just come out of surgery for the second time in a coupe days they thought my lungs had filled up with fluid from my by pass but noooo and oooppps it not in your lung its in your chest pressing on your lungsallen griggs said:"So he shot himself with a .22 rifle up away from his heart toward his right shoulder and much to his surprise it was bad, really bad and he could hardly breath and thought he really had committed suicide. He called an ambulance and they got him to the hospital and he survived the ordeal but it was not a good time."
That's right. He had watched too many episodes of Bonanza.
And he also learned something that I learned in 14 years working in the hospital. Don't knock the .22 LR
It is a vicious man-killer.
Your co worker had a collapsed lung and the ER doc had to insert a "chest tube." I watched this being done many times it was always fascinating. Sometimes from a car wreck or stabbing but usually from a GSW.
The chest tube is about 3/4 inch diameter and 18 inches long. Doc makes a 1 1/2 inch long incision with the scalpel between the ribs, on the side where the lung is collapsed. And he sets that big tube next to the incision, and he shoves it in there about 6 inches deep.
You ought to see that patient squeal when the chest tube is inserted! Damn, it hurts to watch!
I still have the scar and the memory
back to the post topic
as unrealistic as some of the the old westerns are I still enjoy watching them and have spend many a night binge watching them all night .
by the way any of you ever point your handgun up and then sling your pistol downward as you shoot I hear it gives the bullet a extra 100 fps0 -
Similar story: No sympathy from Grandma to son in law.Smitty500mag said:
I worked with a guy back in the 70s that found that out the hard way. His wife had left him and he thought if he shot himself to make it look like attempted suicide she might come back home. So he shot himself with a .22 rifle up away from his heart toward his right shoulder and much to his surprise it was bad, really bad and he could hardly breath and thought he really had committed suicide. He called an ambulance and they got him to the hospital and he survived the ordeal but it was not a good time. Besides that his wife never came back home either. It just confirmed what she had said all along that he was a stupid idiot.allen griggs said:And I learned that just "winging" somebody in the shoulder is usually a big deal. The lungs go way up there, so you can have a collapsed lung.
Grandma was a bootlegger and spoke the truth. Outspoken, but truthful and good old gal.
Son in law was going to commit suicide with a 22 cal pistol shot to the chest at a angle right to left towards the heart area. Him and wife having issues and he also could not keep a job, had 3 kids 9 mo's and 10 minutes apart in ages and a 4th new born that he was not the father. He was a better person than his wife.
Bullet just stayed under the meat right to left, did not penetrate to the heart area. Poor guy got transported to the hospital by ambulance. Grandma went to visit him in hosp room next day knowing she would have to pay his bills and as he opened his eyes for the first time his only visitor was grandma a Dr. and a nurse.
First words he heard was ,Grandma says, "Troy, You never could do anything right"
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This is an out-take from a Gunsmoke episode. It featured Margaret Hamilton, also know as the Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz. Margaret threw in a few lines of her own and this version was not played on tv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ngveiYIaeQ3
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