No flavored Coke Cola? Aluminum shortage?
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Remember when beer came in metal cans 
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It is my understanding that it isn't an aluminum shortage, more a can making capacity shortage. People are hoarding soft drinks just like they did toilet paper. Fountain syrup sales are way down because people aren't getting their drinks at restaurants. Coke guy told me they can make the drinks but the can makers can't keep up with demand. To compensate they are using the cans for the most popular items like Coke and Diet Coke. Trying to buy Coke products at Sams Club last week for the shooting club was an exercise in futility. Where they normally have pallets and pallets of the stuff looked like a desert. Bob
Dang! Now you got me craving a Cherry Coke.😠Bob0 -
Know a guy who has mobile custom canning business. Last batch of cans came from Canada and lids are very difficult to find. He thinks the problem is just so many people buying stuff too drink while stuck at home. 0 -
Hasnt effected the price of scrap aluminum cans. I sold a bunch to clean out the shed for .17 cents a pound. 0 -
yepper ...ran into the coke delivery truck in town and asked...he said with all the places closed that used syrup fountain drink coke that were not needing any that the demand for coke cans went thru the roof so coke cut out all but 3? biggest sellers and are canning them...he said maybe next year they may start making MY regular coke caffeine free again ?????? maybe 0 -
A soft drink shortage! Are you guys kidding me?Do you not realize there are no chicken livers to be had? None! Zip! Zilch!This is not a shortage, this is an outage.We are doomed!
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Just great I was thinking about making Rumaki and forgot to even look for chicken livers at Kroger today. Oh well, I'll just have to mask up and mingle with the unwashed masses again tomorrow.bustedknee said:A soft drink shortage! Are you guys kidding me?Do you not realize there are no chicken livers to be had? None! Zip! Zilch!This is not a shortage, this is an outage.We are doomed!
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If you view the grocery store soda aisle there is far more soda in plastic than in metal...
There is no plastic shortage and no plastic bottle manufacturing capacity shortage...
If cans are not available put the product in plastic which comes in can size and is supported by vending machines and store cooler racks...
This would seem to crush and debunk the IP story - unless people refuse to drink out of anything but a can - and coke is willing to leave tons of money on the table by not putting product in other containers...
Devils advocate and some common sense.
Mike
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China holding on to the rolled up sheets of aluminum? If the morons do away with CRV (a sham of a tax) I'd put the cans for the trash man to pick up. Instead I'm hoarding them to make it worth my while to the recyclers to get partial return. That reminds me US needs to roll their own of aluminum sheets. 0 -
I think it is an unwillingness on the part of the container manufacturers to invest in more equipment to up production. When this latest end of the world scenario is over they probably won't need the extra capacity. Kind of like the 22 ammo makers being reluctant to do the same thing a few years back.Âmrmike08075 said:If you view the grocery store soda aisle there is far more soda in plastic than in metal...
There is no plastic shortage and no plastic bottle manufacturing capacity shortage...
If cans are not available put the product in plastic which comes in can size and is supported by vending machines and store cooler racks...
This would seem to crush and debunk the IP story - unless people refuse to drink out of anything but a can - and coke is willing to leave tons of money on the table by not putting product in other containers...
Devils advocate and some common sense.
Mike
Oh I almost forgot - I hate plastic bottles. Glass bottles preferred, but cans a close second. Bob0 -
BobJudy said:
Just great I was thinking about making Rumaki and forgot to even look for chicken livers at Kroger today. Oh well, I'll just have to mask up and mingle with the unwashed masses again tomorrow....
THERE AIN'T NONE, I TELL YOU!
RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Luckily, I have pork liver but I'm afraid I'm completely out of pork gizzards.
It is getting serious folks.
I don't drink soda but I can relate.
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Look I prefer coke made with pure cane sugar in glass bottles but can't always get it and it's more expensive...
No HFCS or b phisphonal a in glass bottle cane sugar kosher Mexican coke...
So I buy plastic bottles.
I get we all have preferences.
I just think its a deeper more involved issue with many factors involved...
China denying me flavored coke in a can as a form of cold war trade war dominance seems a bit silly.
Mike
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Well I am buying Rum. 0 -
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Well I am buying Rum.
As long as its not in an aluminum can...
They are still trying to push cheap wine in aluminum cans on us - we are not eurotrash or Brazilian favella alcoholics...
Remember keystone beer in the aluminum can with the special liner or treated interior???
I have tried wine in a screw top aluminum can vessel twice and it was swill not worth using to flush out a toilet...
Then again I don't like box wine with plastic bag liners either.
Oh lord what I wouldn't give for a Narragansett Indian head pale ale in a blue tinted thick glass returnable for deposit ceramic stopper swing top pint bottle cooled in fresh running river water still cold on a hot spring day by snow melt mountain top run off...
Of maybe a pint bottle of DAB or Spaaten...
I will drink beer from a can of its Sapporo or asahi - the real stuff from Japan mind you in the family sized canister with the handle...
Or a DAB mini keg canister perhaps...
Mike
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One reason for the shortage may be that folks have caught on to the fact that sodas in plastic bottles go flat within a couple of months; open one & tighten the cap, put it in the frig, & it will be flat the next day. And, artificial sweeteners in diet sodas break down within a few weeks in plastic bottles.My county used to get paid by the recycler for aluminum cans, but now we have to pay them. They make a good profit on the aluminum bales that they sell.Â
Neal
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@BobJudy is pretty much on target. There is no shortage of aluminum, the domestic can sheet mills are almost back to operating at normal levels before the Wuhan Flu shutdown. The shortage is most likely due to the disruptions in the supply line of new can manufacturing. The coils are available to make the can bodies and lids & the soft drinks are available waiting to be packaged, there's just nothing to put them into yet.
Aluminum scrap values have increased considerably in the last 2-4 weeks. If your local scrap dealer isn't paying you or hasn't increased prices, you are getting ripped off. Most scrap dealers arond here are offering 20-25 cents for used beverage cans. A rolling mill will pay around 50-60 cents today for baled UBC delivered to their smelter. While that seems like a huge spread, there are many factors that cut into those profits quickly that I won't go into here.0 -
yoshmyster posted;
China holding on to the rolled up sheets of aluminum? If the morons do away with CRV (a sham of a tax) I'd put the cans for the trash man to pick up. Instead I'm hoarding them to make it worth my while to the recyclers to get partial return. That reminds me US needs to roll their own of aluminum sheets
CRV Pay 5c CRV for a can. Get back mabe 1c per can. A person is suppose to get back their 5c but the state of California has imposed barriers to getting back full value. A person is limited to 50 cans that they can be paid the 5c each for the cans. If a person shows up at the recycle center with a passenger, only one person is allowed to sell the 50 cans at the 5c rate. It costs more to haul the cans 50 at a time than the amount of money received. Now that Covid19 is around most of the recycle centers are closed. The only ones open don't even pay full value for the 50 cans.0 -
Everything tastes better in glass.
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I got a big pile of aluminum brackets used to hold vital signs monitors on the wall. When the surgery center swapped to the new version the old brackets didn't work so instead of letting them trash them I volunteered to remove them all for the Aluminum. Some day I might get enough for a couple beers 0
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