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It's just a mask, why do you want grandpa to die? (green font)

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  • sxsnuf
    Sorry I didn't post on your thread sooner MrMag00. I've been busy sharing it with a couple dozen folks.
    Hope that's OK.
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  • MrMag00
    Here is a video explaining how and why the mask shaming is working.


    "99% won't get it", where have we heard that before? Whatever happened to him? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7iN0V-GbM0
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  • Don McManus
    GreatGuns said:
    us55840 said:
    GreatGuns said:
    jim_lemay said:
    Population will eventually get fed up with the "government controls" and revolt again just like 1776. Keep your powder dry friends and countrymen. Get out the vote for Trump 2020.             B)
    I think you just contradicted yourself. Trump is our current "government controls."  ;)
    Really?  Trump doesn't wear a mask 99.9% of the time. 
     It is very apparent, it's the liberal communist media and the crazy medical industry that have convinced most mayors and governors (many liberal democrats) to FORCE compliance.  The President has never imposed such on the Federal level.
    No, he missed that opportunity to help (read: save) the country by giving his take on the virus and by doing virtually nothing, too little, too late at best. Now over 141,000 have died because bad information followed an incorrect personal opinion. As to him never imposing what you view as a violation of power, I view sending "brownshirts" to Portland and now Chicago as overstepping his power.
    You seem to think about things, Jim, and don't jump lockstep with either extreme.
    I have tried to look into the timeline of this virus and find where Trump, or anyone for that matter, did not do what would have been logically expected at the time.  A possible exception is the decision in a couple of Northeast States to send Covid positive folks back to nursing home after the crap-show in Washington State, but I would not at this point go so far as to state anyone has blood on their hands.

    If you could take a few minutes and state the logical path that was missed by the Federal Government with contemporaneous knowledge, I would be interested.  Virtually all of my more liberal friends can only state: 'Trump didn't act fast enough and people died.'  Have yet to hear specific actions that should have been taken by the Feds that were not taken.
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  • Don McManus
    Good to see that Jim is taking the time to research the timeline.

    Looking forward to an informative post.
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  • Don McManus
    I had hoped for better, but it seems there we will not hear from Jim on this one.

    In another post he had stated that we should have stopped all international travel when the first death in America was confirmed.  This may, in retrospect, be a feel good response, but lacks practical effect as the virus was already here and was going to spread.  It may have delayed it a bit, but considering we closed travel from China within 10 days of the first documented case in the US, and closed travel from Europe within 6 weeks, it is apparent that while it may have had a short term positive effect, long term there would have been little change.

    He has also stated that right away a national protocol should have been instituted immediately.  This misses the obvious point that the US is an extremely diverse country and protocols in one area will not be applicable to others.  I guess one could argue that a complete nationwide shutdown and mandatory quarantine of all people would have slowed the spread, but the destruction of a country, IMO, is no way to combat a virus.

    The downplaying of the virus by our leaders at all levels was perhaps a mistake in hindsight, but at the time we really did not know what this thing was going to do.  Federal intrusion at the levels some seem to think appropriate is distinctly anti-American, and frankly, as the science changed almost daily (understandable with a new disease) cannot be assumed to have been effective at all.  It may have slowed things initially, but as we see with the re-opening of the country, the virus would have still existed, and would a merely picked up when we opened as it has proven to have done.  Interesting to note that the hardest hit areas initially are doing the best now.  I know that community immunity is passe', but from an unbiased view, seems to be one thing that has been and continues to be effective.   We may have another year of this.  Seems silly to prolong it any longer than necessary, particularly when it doing potentially irreversible damage to our economy.
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  • mogley98
    If I recall wasn't Nancy telling people NOT to stay away from China town and to please come eat there? Meanwhile Trump shoulda coulda woulda LOL Media doesn't report that
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  • Don McManus
    Hard to fault Pelosi for her comments at the time.

    Hard to fault DeBlasio or Schumer for their comments at the time.

    Pelosi's comments came roughly a week after it was recognized that the deaths in Kirkland, WA were due to Covid and not a seasonal flu as had been thought up until the middle of February.  

    Early on there were no right or wrong answers, as there were too many unknowns.  We need to remember that on 20 March, we had only 20,000 documented cases in the US and only 300 documented deaths.

    Every politician can be excused for not knowing that this would become such a large issue.

    It is for this reason that I think we all need to understand that politicians can only react to what is known.  Trump downplayed the virus when there were very few deaths.  In retrospect he may have been wrong, though he was correct is saying that it is dangerous to only a small percentage of the people in the US.  This was true at the time, and remains true today.

    My preference in all things is local government first, and all government actions with as limited a role as possible vis-a-vis the rights and lives of their citizens.  Extraordinary actions with the goal to contain that which was and is not containable is a fool's errand but it makes some feel better.
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  • MrMag00
    I would disagree. There is plenty of information to support that what should have been done was not done. and still isn't done. 
    https://truepundit.com/deadly-cover-up-fauci-approved-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-cure-coronaviruses-nobody-needed-to-die/

    Then all you need to do is follow the money.  And to muzzle the president to me is a great sin and fraud on the American People. And Trump let them. Thus, he has now willingly and officially joined the swamp dwellers.  :(

    So now the choice left to you is do you wish to be eaten by a python or alligator. I'm taking door #3
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  • MrMag00
    Here is an interesting video with a great backstory. Trump Jr got banned from twitter for posting it as well as quite a few other prominent Conservative Voices. 

    Banned from youtube, banned from facebook and twitter. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but figured to post it before it gets taken down from here too.  The fact that the liberal 4th Reich is shaking in its boots is all the credibility I need to know at this time. I'll watch and form my opinion on the content here soon. 
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/uZIvH2fKMCk4/
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