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August 2019 National Geographic proves nearly all Europeans have significant East African ancestry

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  • allen griggs
    I have read that survey and I find it hard to believe.
    Remember at National Geographic you get science, mixed with politics.  And this is not the National Geographic that was in the libraries back in 1970.  This magazine has gone hard Left.
    Several years ago I was in the chiropractor office, there was a National Geographic and the cover was an 11 year old girl who had "changed into a boy."   The kid had long shoulder length hair died metallic pink and blue.
    And the magazine was celebrating that we have 11 year old girls undergoing sex change, and taking testosterone. 
    Cover story.
    Because of their radical left politics, which this magazine just turned to in the past decade, I quit reading it years ago.
    But I bet you they are 100 percent in agreement with the radical Dems who say that Climate Change will destroy the earth in ten years.
    National Geographic.  Science, mixed with politics.
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  • He Dog
    I find it difficult to believe otherwise.  All homonids originated in Africa, and there were a pile of them, members of the genus homo walked out in different waves and are represented in the fossil record of different parts of Eurasia.  The Denisovians in Russia, the Neanderthals in Europe and the Middle East and so on.  Where else could they have come from?
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  • jimdeere
    I am a descendant of Abraham.
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  • dreher
    Because of the N.G. turn to the extreme left I would doubt anything I would read in N.G.  Is this true??  Could be.  Could there be a political reason to state this??  Could be.  

    We now live in a country where all news is completely suspect.  Where did my country go???  What hurts the most is we stood around and watched the commies take over our country.  What the hell did we do??   
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  • mrmike08075

    Have we collectively dismissed Louis Seymour Bazett Leakey the British paleoanthropologist and archaeologist whose work was important in demonstrating that humans evolved in Africa, particularly through discoveries made at Olduvai Gorge with his wife, fellow paleontologist Mary Leakey. 

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  • bpost
    My ancestral heritage may be interesting to trace origins but since I have no way of knowing what happened in a barn 500 or 5,000 years ago I will just claim to be an American of mixed mutt and doubtful heritage. 
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  • chiefr

    Have we collectively dismissed Louis Seymour Bazett Leakey the British paleoanthropologist and archaeologist whose work was important in demonstrating that humans evolved in Africa, particularly through discoveries made at Olduvai Gorge with his wife, fellow paleontologist Mary Leakey. 

    Leakey theory has been with us for over 50 years now and it make sense. Human migrations are proven facts and lastly DNA does not lie. DNA has given Leakey credence. 
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  • chiefr
    I have read that survey and I find it hard to believe.
    Remember at National Geographic you get science, mixed with politics.  And this is not the National Geographic that was in the libraries back in 1970.  This magazine has gone hard Left.
    Several years ago I was in the chiropractor office, there was a National Geographic and the cover was an 11 year old girl who had "changed into a boy."   The kid had long shoulder length hair died metallic pink and blue.
    And the magazine was celebrating that we have 11 year old girls undergoing sex change, and taking testosterone. 
    Cover story.
    Because of their radical left politics, which this magazine just turned to in the past decade, I quit reading it years ago.
    But I bet you they are 100 percent in agreement with the radical Dems who say that Climate Change will destroy the earth in ten years.
    National Geographic.  Science, mixed with politics.
    Spot on
    Always been a science junkie, but science used to advance the DEMOCRAT party agenda becomes propaganda.
    Quit subscripting years ago.
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  • SCOUT5
    Humanoids came out of Africa as far as our science has been able to determine.  Provided this is true, having DNA from that region is a given.
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  • mrmike08075

    I certainly am a proponent of the Lucy narratives and the rise of the tool making culture / stone age industry of making surplus purpose built tools whose profile and function adhere to certain defined parameter and display similarities...

    Homo habilis, probably the first early human species, occupied Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania approximately 1.9 million years ago (mya); then came a contemporary australopithecineParanthropus boisei, 1.8 mya, followed by Homo erectus, 1.2 mya. Our species Homo sapiens, which is estimated to have emerged roughly 300,000 years ago, is dated to have occupied the site 17,000 years ago.

    Louis is right up there with Howard Carter and Arthur Evans and Heinrich Schliemann or Frank Calvert (Indiana jones??? Not quite...)

    I must have at least two dozen of the books written by or written about these notables and other leaders in their fields / amongst their peers - all excavated by me at library book sales in the early 1980's.

    Mike

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  • serf
    I Thought The Cradle of civilization was in Anatolia? There was the oldest Mathematics Before even Egypt. Did  the Neanderthals, Denisovans come out of Africa?
                                            serf
       Research since 2010 has refined the picture of interbreeding between Neanderthals, Denisovans and anatomically modern humans. Interbreeding appears to have occurred asymmetrically among the ancestors of modern-day humans, and that this is a possible rationale for differing frequencies of Neanderthal-specific DNA in the genomes of modern humans. In Vernot and Akey (2015) concluded that the relatively greater quantity of Neanderthal-specific DNA in the genomes of individuals of East Asian descent (than those of European descent) cannot be explained by differences in selection.[19] They further suggest that "two additional demographic models, involving either a second pulse of Neandertal gene flow into the ancestors of East Asians or a dilution of Neandertal lineages in Europeans by admixture with an unknown ancestral population" are parsimonious with their data.[19] Similar conclusions were reached by Kim and Lohmueller (2015): "Using simulations of a broad range of models of selection and demography, we have shown that this hypothesis that the greater proportion of Neandertal ancestry in East Asians than in Europeans is due to the fact that purifying selection is less effective at removing weakly deleterious Neandertal alleles from East Asian populations cannot account for the higher proportion of Neandertal ancestry in East Asians than in Europeans. Instead, more complex demographic scenarios, most likely involving multiple pulses of Neandertal admixture, are required to explain the data."[20]
      Neanderthals: The First Spear Throwers
    https://digital.kenyon.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=summerscienceprogram



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  • kissgoodnight
    The word "Proves" should not be used.  DNA tests would show a lot more than some jerks making up facts to write a story.
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  • SoreShoulder
    SCOUT5 said:
    Humanoids came out of Africa as far as our science has been able to determine.  Provided this is true, having DNA from that region is a given.
    Humans migrated out of Africa 50-70,000 years ago and evolved or mutated vastly different features than Africans.  They turned into other races, in effect. 

    The group that was in Europe arrived less than 15,000 years ago and retained African features when encountered by the other two groups.  They still looked African when they met the first whites.

    Some parts of Europe still retain darker skin, broad noses, or curly hair.  Look at climate kid.  
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  • serf
    SCOUT5 said:
    Humanoids came out of Africa as far as our science has been able to determine.  Provided this is true, having DNA from that region is a given.
    Humans migrated out of Africa 50-70,000 years ago and evolved or mutated vastly different features than Africans.

    The group that was in Europe arrived less than 15,000 years ago and retained African features when encountered by the other two groups.  They still looked African when they met the first whites.

    Some parts of Europe still retain darker skin, broad noses, or curly hair.  Look at climate kid.  
      Here's a theory with possible reasons why we are still different. After all the first spear thrower and possible vocal sound language for hunting could have come from Neanderthals.
                                       serf
     

    In recent years, drug researchers have determined that psilocybin induces a state of “unconstrained cognition,” triggering a pronounced surge in activity in the primitive brain network, the region associated with emotional reactions. On psilocybin, the parts of the brain linked to emotions and memory become more coordinated, creating brain activity patterns resembling those of people who are asleep and dreaming. At the same time, the region that controls higher-level thinking and is linked to a sense of self becomes disorganized, which is why some people who take psilocybin feel a loss of “ego,” leading them to feel more a part of the world than they do their own bodies.

    Regardless of the holes that have been pointed out in McKenna’s scientific logic, Amanda Feilding, founder and director of the Beckley Foundation, a leading psychedelic research think tank, tells Inverse that we must see past McKenna’s errors and consider his greatest insight: that the story of humankind is inseparable from our fascination with psychedelic drugs. Even if early man encountered psychoactive substances closer to the Neolithic period, she says, the experience of entering an altered state of consciousness likely changed human society for the better.




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  • SoreShoulder
    The McMichaels both look like they could share some heritage with Adrian Targett, an Englishman who was identified as a living, direct descendant of the Cheddar man.  
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  • gruntled2
    I certainly remember National Geographic magazines from my tender years. Before Playboy they were just about the only way you could look at pictures of naked women. There were some nudist & photographic magazines but even if you could find one we couldn't buy them.
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  • He Dog
    Leaky got most of it wrong actually.  Most of what he named has been reclassified.  The evolution of modern humans is far more complex than he ever imagined, and things he insisted should be classified as Homo were in fact other genera.  Donald Johanson did a lot better, but even his version was much too simple.  
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  • serf

     And guess Where Amanita muscaria, commonly known as the fly agaric grows at?

                                        serf
    In the “old world”, the psychoactive fly agaric mushroom (Amanita muscaria) has been closely associated with northern European and Asiatic shamans and their rituals. Researchers have documented its use or presumed use by numerous cultures throughout Europe and Asia. In Siberia, its use predates the crossing of the Bering Straits into North America.

     Now where did Neanderthals  And Denisovans live at? Bingo!

    https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/7/eaax5097

    Now a new study, published in Science Advances, suggests that early humans living inside Africa may also have interbred with archaic hominins. These are extinct species that are related to Homo sapiens.

    The interbreeding outside Africa happened after our Homo sapiens ancestors expanded out of Africa into new environments. It was there they had sex with Neanderthals and the related Denisovans.







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  • Smitty500mag
    Why didn't they print the actual truth...all East Africans have significant European ancestry.
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  • serf
    Why didn't they print the actual truth...all East Africans have significant European ancestry.

     You have a politically correct article,white washed by authors for diversity propaganda acceptance. Why did The East Africans Black people get lighter skin and blue eyes and did not have facial features of southern Africans? Because of mating with  Neanderthals and the related Denisovans.
                                                           serf
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  • yoshmyster

    Is there any Hitler DNA we could test to see what his blend was?

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  • serf
    yoshmyster said:

    Is there any Hitler DNA we could test to see what his blend was?

      Ask The Russians,I understand That Stalin had a fixation about Hitler and had his skull in his possession after WW II.
                                                           serf

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  • SoreShoulder
    I am not an experienced user but have read that Amanita Muscaria does not contain psilocybin.
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  • serf
    I am not an experienced user but have read that Amanita Muscaria does not contain psilocybin.
      Insert magic mushroom in your lexicon and go from there but watch out for the rabbit hole. I am no expert either. But I remember reading you better boil them a couple of times before ingesting to live through the experience.
                                                                    serf

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  • SoreShoulder
    60 Minutes had a show last year saying that multiple studies had identified that one dose of psilocybin can cure depression and alcoholism for years at a time. 
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  • SoreShoulder
    serf said:
    ....a dilution of Neandertal lineages in Europeans by admixture with an unknown ancestral population...
    Europeans are supposedly about one percent less Neanderthal than Asians or American Indians, about two percent vs. three percent.  If they all were about 30% East African, that would serve to explain the difference.  However, most Europeans have less than the required amount of East African ancestry, such as England which is 10% East African on average. 

    I believe the East Africans are thought to have arrived in Europe 14,500 years ago, which is after the extinction of the Neanderthals.  
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  • SoreShoulder
    He Dog said:
    I find it difficult to believe otherwise.  All homonids originated in Africa, and there were a pile of them, members of the genus homo walked out in different waves and are represented in the fossil record of different parts of Eurasia.  The Denisovians in Russia, the Neanderthals in Europe and the Middle East and so on.  Where else could they have come from?
    Earlier migrations evolved into different races and interbred with two other humanoid species, the Neanderthals and Denisovans. 

    A wave of migration from East Africa 14,500 years ago is thought to have replaced previous European inhabitants or perhaps found Europe largely empty between the two ice ages.  Those people are thought to still have had African racial characteristics.  
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  • serf
    (Those people are thought to still have had African racial characteristics.) Well not according to Cheddar's man recreation. Except for darker skin.
                              serf
           
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr-_rumLWs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UEq9vQWgE

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  • SoreShoulder
    Why didn't they print the actual truth...all East Africans have significant European ancestry.
    Then East Africans would have a few percent Neanderthal DNA.  Like other sub-Saharan Africans, they only have trace amounts.  
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  • SoreShoulder
    serf said:
    (Those people are thought to still have had African racial characteristics.) Well not according to Cheddar's man recreation. Except for darker skin.
                              serf
    There's the nose, still present in many Europeans like Climate Kid.  

    Eske Willerslev's 37,000 year old individual may have been a part of a population that got pushed out of Europe by the ice ages.  I have read that there may have been only about 1,500 individuals in Europe during the height of the last ice age.  As the glaciers receded, the people he calls Europeans would have steadily moved back home. 
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