Skip to main content
Help Center Community Shop

Transfer question

Beekeeperp7
I’m a Florida resident in Wisconsin for the summer. I purchased a rifle from another state so I’m having it transferred in to Wisconsin. The FFL that I’m dealing with are telling me that I can’t purchase an AR style rifle because I’m not a Wisconsin resident. I have purchased AR’s and AK’s here before, so I know I can. Does anyone know what agency I should call to set the counter guy straight? The rifle is already in transit so I can’t go somewhere else.
Thanks
0

Comments

7 comments

Date Votes
  • mark christian
    These are the folks in Wisconsin who regulate firearms in the Badger State:
    https://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/firearms-unit

    [I misread your thread and what I typed below is not in fact accurate for your situation. If both state laws allow then yes, you should be able to purchase a long gun in Wisconsin].

    Frankly, you appear to be a resident of Florida and a non-resident home-owner or frequent visitor to Wisconsin. As a dealer, I would not transfer a firearm to you unless you present me with a valid Wisconsin drivers license or state issued ID card. 
    0
  • chme
    https://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/firearms-unit


    Dang!  Mark, you type faster that I do!  However, I am puzzled over your comment- so I am going to ask- it was my understanding that you may acquire a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer so long as the item was legal in your state of residence and the state where acquired, and that the acquisition did not violate state laws.  You may only acquire a handgun in your home state- but you said no to the rifle.   Am I missing something?  
    0
  • mark christian
    You're correct. I misread his thread by thinking that he was claiming to be a resident, when in fact he is not. If both state laws allow for it then yes, he should be able to purchase a long gun in Wisconsin.  
    0
  • nmyers
    It's possible to have residences in multiple states.  And, federal law permits you to buy firearms in states other than your primary residence while you are living there according to ATF P5300.4.  The problem is, as Mark says, you don't have a WI drivers license so that makes it difficult to convince anyone that such transfer would be legal.  If you have a WI college ID, or are on active duty with the military & have military ID & orders, it may be more likely.  Otherwise, I don't think so.
    The federal agency that would keep the WI counter guy straight is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives.  And, they have been consistent in telling licensees NOT to make a firearms transfer if they are not comfortable with it.  So, the guys here are correct, the counter guy is correct, & you are going to have to figure out how you are going to get out of this mess, since the rifle is in transit.
    I think that your only options are to ask the dealer who shipped the rifle to accept its return, or ask the WI dealer to transfer it to your FL dealer to hold for you.  In all cases, you should expect to pay the WI dealer shipping & processing charges. 
    Neal
    0
  • shootuadeal

    We always seem to go round and round on this. Here is the skinny:

    The transaction has to be legal regarding Federal law, the State the FFL is in AND the state the buyer is from.(I'll ignore the city ordinances because they are usually found in states that the sale would already be prohibited)

    Federal law prohibits the sale of Handguns to an out of state resident but generally allows the sale of long guns to a non resident.

    Most of the problems comes from state laws.

    So in this instance above, the original poster from Florida buying a long gun in Wisconsin.

    Federal law says it is ok. Wisconsin law says its OK. Florida law says all checks for firearms must go through the state department of law enforcement, which presumably your Wisconsin dealer has no access to. Florida is one of the 15 or so states my research has shown i cannot sell to. In my opinion on this transaction the Wisconsin dealer is correct that he cannot transfer the firearm

    Here is a longer post I made awhile back trying to help everyone understand the laws that need to be navigated.

    https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/1359338/long-explanation-of-long-gun-sales-interstate

    3
  • Beekeeperp7
    Thanks for all the input. In Wisconsin the background check or the NICS check for long guns goes thru the FBI and handguns go through Wisconsin DOJ. I was able to receive my rifle this Morning but not until I explained to the ATF agent over the phone, who seemed like a real good guy BTW that I was a Florida resident and since Florida and Wisconsin don’t restrict these style of firearms there should be no problem. He took a few min and called back and told the clerk to proceed. I know MN and IL restrict these type of firearms which is why he hesitated to release it and things got pretty heated with us, but I was able to take my Poly-Tech home. The hard part now is sneaking it past the wife.
    thanks for all the input this is my first time using this forum and it’s refreshing to actually hear from a knowledgeable group of people.
    0
  • mark christian
     I'm glad it worked out so well. Your issue was a bit perplexing- even I was tripped up, and I pride myself on understanding firearms regulations. I live in central Florida, where it is currently 95 degrees. Enjoy your cool Wisconsin Summer...but I'll bet you come back home for the Winter!  ;)

    In the meantime, please make yourself at home in our forum. 
    0

Please sign in to leave a comment.

Recent Activity