Minneapolis dropping their police force
Well, that will solve a lot of problems, won't it? (green font)
There has never been a major city without a police force. Or even a minor one. I will be interested to see how that works out. Every thug in the country will head there.
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I seriously doubt that it will actually happen. 0 -
It will be a reorganization under a different name, with different people in charge (Democrats). Maybe be merged with another agency. 0 -
The new, reorganized force will do just fine.
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I realize it would be a hardship on families and bills to pay but JMHO every LEO should say have at it were not coming to work for a month do not even think about asking for help . when the month is up let us know how it went for you 6 -
That's going to be fun to watch if it really happens. It's going to be a Lootin' Tootin' time in Ole Minneapolis! Can't wait to see them boo hooing on TV...please come and help us we can't take it anymore.
I'd like to see them do it in every big city. In fact I'd like to see every policeman in the country walk off the job and tell everybody to shove it!!3 -
qTCH FOR "AHri Lq: zones to be established within the urban setting, to accomodate the huge Somali contingent. and what isn't sharuia will be Moorish National controlled 0 -
You, dont know DEMOCRATs.mohawk600 said:I seriously doubt that it will actually happen.
The policing will NOT go away. The PDs as you and I are familiar with will be replaced by something far more sinister.0 -
Yep, DEMOCRATs in their quest to gain their votes have already allowed the manifestation of such zones in Western Europe.discusdad said:qTCH FOR "AHri Lq: zones to be established within the urban setting, to accomodate the huge Somali contingent. and what isn't sharuia will be Moorish National controlled0 -
Since no one apparently wants to read the facts, here they are:What you need to know about plans to defund Minneapolis police
Agreement by 9 of 12 current council members is a tiny step in what could be a long process.June 9, 2020 — 8:56amA day before, Mayor Jacob Frey was unwilling to support defunding and was jeered by a crowd for saying he favored reforms. Here are some answers to questions about the future of policing in Minneapolis.Defunding or dismantling the Minneapolis Police Department has become a cohesive cry from protesters since the death of George Floyd under the knee of a city officer two weeks ago.
On Sunday, nine Minneapolis City Council members told a crowd they were prepared to “begin the process of dismantling the Minneapolis Police Department.”Why is the City Council talking about dismantling or defunding the Minneapolis Police Department?The killing of Floyd, captured on video by a bystander and considered by many to be a modern-day lynching, shocked the community’s conscience and launched two weeks of global protests from one Minneapolis street corner. But the problem is long-standing. The city’s poorer and minority residents on whom police disproportionately use force are often wary of trusting Minneapolis police.
What do Minneapolis City Council members mean by dismantling the police department?
The Council has not released any specifics. The council members have articulated support for the concept, but the details will be more difficult. There are clues. Last Friday, the Council met in an emergency session and banned choke holds and neck restraints in all circumstances. Even before Floyd’s death, the current City Council refused requests from Mayor Jacob Frey to increase the number of police on city streets. Last year, the council rejected Frey’s budget proposal to increase the number of officers on the street. Then in early March, the council rebuffed Frey’s request to apply for a federal grant for more officers.
Is dismantling different from defunding?
Dismantling implies abolition of the current structure. Defunding refers to shaving the budget. Behind both is the idea of shifting resources from a paramilitary police force to education and social services with the aim of reducing socioeconomic disparities.
Will there be police on the streets of Minneapolis this summer?
Yes. The council for now has nine members agreeing on the concept of dismantling the department, but there are no agreements on the details or a plan of action for next steps.
What is the Minneapolis Police Department budget?
$193.3 million in 2020 with 892 sworn officers and 175 civilian employees.
Can the Council “defund” the police and stop paying them?
Not entirely. The Council must follow the City Charter which requires the funding of “a police force of at least 0.0017 employees per resident, and provide for those employees’ compensation, for which purpose it may tax the taxable property in the City up to 0.3 percent of its value annually.” As for what size police force the charter requires, a city spokesman would say that’s a “legal interpretation” that he wouldn’t answer.
Who can change the charter?
The council alone cannot do this. It needs to be a 13-0 vote with the mayor’s approval. But three council members have not said whether they support the dismantling and one seat is vacant. It’s unclear whether a 12-0 vote would be considered unanimous for the purpose of changing the charter.
Can voters change the charter?
Yes, if a simple majority vote to do so on a citywide ballot question.
What would replace the police?
The idea generally would be to have a social services-based approach, possibly using the fire department to handle drug overdose calls, health care and social services professionals to tend to mental health matters instead of militaristic, uniformed officers with guns. But even the council members who want to dismantle the police aren’t yet articulating detailed agreement on a new approach.
Has any city in the United States done this?
There have been some attempts at shifting focus. The police force in Camden, N.J., was dissolved and absorbed by the county sheriff, doubling the size of the latter. Training shifted into heavily emphasizing deescalation tactics where restraints and force were used as a last resort. There’s been movement elsewhere as well to change the model. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti has embraced removing $150 million from the $2 billion police budget. Last year, 911 operators in Austin, Texas, 911 began asking callers whether they are seeking police, fire or mental health assistance. Longtime civil rights activist as the Rev. Al Sharpton, who was in town last week, said pressure for change in policing practices is at unprecedented levels with white people marching in the streets alongside people of color across the country.
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let em cut their own throats........and good ol sharpton..the IRS untouchable.....black society's big leech 0 -
Just wait until the politicians figure out that without someone with a gun and a badge to enforce their laws they have absolutely no power.
How are they going to enforce taxes, zoning, inspections, or shooting ranges in people’s back yards (the things they really care about)?
There will be some changes and a PC new name (“social justice enablement unit”), but few politicians are going to give up power willingly.
it’s just not going to happen
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NO, the police should just ignore the politicians, and more importantly make a public announcement that the will not help or protect them in any way shape or form. I bet they would sing a different tune. 0
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