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Grabbing The Other Feller's Shotgun Is A Risky Move, And STUPID

David Nunn
If someone is pointing a shotgun or rifle at you, the smart thing to do, unless you are similarly armed, is to raise your hands and shout, "Don't shoot!"  

Unless you can get inside the arc described by the muzzle, and unless you know what the heck you're doing, grabbing the barrel is a fool's move and likely to be fatal.

This is just an observation and opinion, and is not a comment on any particular interpersonal incident.
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  • kimi

    Stupid move.

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  • Ditch-Runner
    my sister and BIL ( his buddy ) best man  was killed by a shotgun,  the details are a bit fuzzy now it was some time ago  and I never ask a lot of questions it was hard enough on them .
     from what I recall the best mans  buddy   had just bought a  short barrel shotgun and he  was visiting this buddy's  house
      his buddy pulled it from under the chair he was sitting in  to show it off , he  had it pointed at the best man  showing it to him , the best man grabbed the barrel and was pulling it over to look at it , the owner still had the stock and trigger in his control well it was loaded and  had his finger on the trigger  the pulling caused the holder to discharge the gun well he was DRT  
     I never followed up what become of the shooter I think it may been  declared a accident , 
           obvious so many stupid moves during that showing and handling  hard lesson to learn 
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  • bustedknee
    Another observation: 
    If person #1 is armed and person #2 is not -- and tries to take the weapon from person #1, person #1 should do everything in his power to maintain control of his weapon, even if it means killing unarmed person #2.
    Never, ever, ever, ever allow your opponent to gain the upper hand.  Person #2 will no longer be unarmed if he gains possession of the weapon but person #1 will be.

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  • gartman
    I see. If someone points a gun at me and I do anything to avoid being shot and get killed anyway it was all my fault.
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  • US Military Guy
    gartman said:
    I see. If someone points a gun at me and I do anything to avoid being shot and get killed anyway it was all my fault.
    It will not necessarily be your fault . . . but you will still be dead.
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  • David Nunn
    gartman said:
    "I see. If someone points a gun at me and I do anything to avoid being shot and get killed anyway it was all my fault."

    No one stated that but you.   There are techniques for disarming a person brandishing a weapon, but it requires training and practice, practice, practice.  And even then, it is a last ditch move to keep from being killed.  Do it wrong, and you have nearly 100% chance of being hurt or killed.  

    Grabbing the barrel of a gun pointed at you, and pulling it toward you is a fool's move.

    Lots of cops have shot people loose from their guns.  I shouldn't point my gun at a person without really good cause.  I shouldn't let a person get close enough to grab it.  But, if I have it out in hand, and the person grabs it to take it away, I will probably shoot.

    My friend and colleague, Jim, armed himself and went to check out a vacant house he owns because he saw a young man trespassing on the property.  He didn't have a holster, so he had the pistol in his hand.  He contacted the trespasser and told him to leave.  The trespasser figured he could take the valuable pistol from the old man wielding it, but he was wrong.  Jim shot the trespasser off the end of his pistol.  One shot took care of the problem, and fortunately, the trespasser lived and recovered from his wound.
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  • mogley98
    ANY time you have a good chance of living by surrendering it seems prudent to do so, if surrendering will most likely still end up in death than fight like hell!
    In the case of this particular recent event and many others surrendering and allowing things to wash in the court would probably have saved more than one life.
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  • SCOUT5
    I have no idea what the dead man in Georgia was thinking.  As I wrote in another thread no one else does either because he is dead and can't tell us.   Everyone is not trained LE, military, or taken classes that included disarming an antagonist.   However any of us could find ourselves on the wrong end of a gun and think we need to fight for survival.   If someone has to fight for survival I'm not going to place blame on them for fighting to survive.   I do not know if that was the circumstances for the man in Georgia.   The shooter is alive and can state the situation as he seen it, but no one can state the situation as the dead man seen it.

    I like to think if I had to attempt to disarm someone I would think to deflect the muzzle away from me, if that is possible, and not pull it toward me.

    In the Georgia case if someone wasn't already at risk to be shot the fight for the shotgun greatly increased the risk of someone being shot.    
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