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Historical Winchester Self Loading Rifle Question

drobs
A few years ago, I briefly stored a gun for a friend. A Winchester model 1905 self loading rifle. I posted some pics here but took them down way back when and lost them.

This gun has engraving that shows it was owned by one of the Lawmen that hunted down Pretty Boy Floyd and I believe Bonnie and Clyde.

Looks like I might have another opportunity to buy this gun again. I figure I'll offer a couple grand for it.
The recent history of the gun is questionable. More or less, the town drunk (old timer) had it in his possession before passing away recently.

I don't know how it came into his possession. There is no registration of firearms or paper keeping requirement for private citizens in Missouri in regards to private sales of firearms.

That being said, with this gun having some historical significance, I'm wondering if it was stolen at some point in it's history. Any way to check that?
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  • Ricci.Wright
    A LEO can run the serial number on NCIC but if it hits someone will be asking about the gun.
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  • drobs
    I'll see if I can get the serial number and ask my Sheriff to run it for me / us.
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    Legally for a law officer to run a s/n, the firearm has to in their possession. If it hits, bye bye firearm.
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  • rufe-snow
    I would take any Bonnie & Clyde association, with a very healthy dose of salt. Only two of the lawman involved in the B & C ambush. Were armed with semi-auto rifles. Both Remington Model 8's. 

    Your money, of course. But I sure as heck wouldn't drop a couple of grand on a 1905 Winchester. With a very questionable background.

    Incidentally the 1905, was chambered for the 35 Winchester self loading cartridge. Not the much more powerful, 351 Winchester self loading. Which was much more commonly used, by various law enforcement agencies. Except in the B & C shootout. 
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  • drobs
    rufe-snow said:
    I would take any Bonnie & Clyde association, with a very healthy dose of salt. Only two of the lawman involved in the B & C ambush. Were armed with semi-auto rifles. Both Remington Model 8's. 

    Your money, of course. But I sure as heck wouldn't drop a couple of grand on a 1905 Winchester. With a very questionable background.

    Incidentally the 1905, was chambered for the 35 Winchester self loading cartridge. Not the much more powerful, 351 Winchester self loading. Which was much more commonly used, by various law enforcement agencies. Except in the B & C shootout. 
    It's a 351 Win.
    I may just stay the heck away from it though.
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  • drobs
    Link to previous thread - pics are gone.

    The receiver was engraved with the name Detective Lairmore.

    Seems the recent owner that passed away was the town drunk but his father was somewhat of a genius and this gun may have come from him.


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