Your thoughts on 'reopening'???
I think we should continue to sit tight for few couple more weeks yet. I fear everyone will jump right back to the old normal, with no common sense, and turn right the hell around put us all back in lock down.
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
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Causes of death in America
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Governor just opened boat ramps again and the Beach.. 0 -
we are staying home ....OK... can't say if closing or opening is the right route...but does not seem smart to push your luck on a miserable way to die....and if i catch it the odds are highly against me.....and seems there are a lot of STUPID people that cannot follow a simple safety direction everywhere the news shows 0 -
Common sense again, if you choose to stay home, stay home. 0 -
The opening up this soon may be a mistake . As agent k said “ a person is smart , people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals “ Herd mentality will take over and everything , stores , beaches etc will be jammed wall to wall . With my health problems , I will choose to continue to limit my exposure to the great unwashed. Science will figure it out , just going to take a little while .
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spasmcreeksrun said:we are staying home ....OK... can't say if closing or opening is the right route...but does not seem smart to push your luck on a miserable way to die....and if i catch it the odds are highly against me.....and seems there are a lot of STUPID people that cannot follow a simple safety direction everywhere the news shows
I can understand that but for some of us like myself , I have a job to do and this week it start in about an hour or as soon as my truck gets here , so tonight its 600 plus miles and 3 states , have a good night and stay safe0 -
Well right now if I get all the money that the state is supposed to give me ( See my other post on this ) I hope they never reopen. 
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I’m lucky enough to be working from home, and still being productive. So I can stay this way a while longer.
I was still flying through Newark and O’Hare twice a week until 3/12 and really didn’t start with the hand sanitizer and wipes until the week prior. So hoping what I thought was early spring allergies was it. Have to wait and see though. Hopefully lay low until I can get an antibody test to tell. Those should start becoming more readily available over the next few weeks. And our collective knowledge of the extent people have been exposed will increase from those tests.
Even if all the government restrictions were lifted when we wake up in the morning, you’re still ultimately responsible for your own safety. And since my 1911 has 3 safeties (including my finger), I still handle it with care, I will try to remain cautious with this virus too.
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All I can say is, for contractor's like me its turning into a nightmare. 0 -
Past time to move forward, let people work. We can't send out checks to Americans every week.
Further how come Lowes and Home Depot and construction sites can work but bars and restaurants can't?
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All levels of goobmint have learned a valuable lesson from all this.
Americans will, with barely a whimper, sacrifice their constitutional rights in exchange for the perception of safety and security. Seems a wise man once said, in such a case, we deserve neither.
No need for curfews or military on the street corners when defacto martial law is this effective.6 -
In Ca, roughly 1100 people have died to date due to "Covid-19" since March.
Of those, nearly 90% were elderly or had pre-existing conditions that Covid-19 attacks....so the cause of death really isn't Covid-19, it was whatever their condition was that was exacerbated by Covid-19 infection. (LA County actually reports this statistic, most news doesn't.)
So, roughly 110 had some other reaction to the virus that killed them.
There are 43,000,000 people in Ca.
This means the state's economy was destroyed over the past 6 weeks for something that was fatal to .0000002558% of the population.
(I personally think some people are predisposed to serious attacks, which is why some get zero and others get hammered. See the Bloomberg article about the same theories.)
When you separate the "Covid-19" deaths into those who are naturally going to be hit the hardest by any virus (Elderly, immune and cardio-infirm) and then those who have some other reaction that kills them, then the numbers are far, far below what is being reported as "killed by Covid-19".
I have been watching the numbers since day one, and while it is something to think about I am just not buying into the hype that everything must cease.
Stay safe.3 -
State by state basis. Low population density states need to open immediately. Those who are compromised or scared, they can stay home. The rest of us need to get back to work to fulfill our lives and maintain the economy. 0 -
Too soon!COVID-19We have no cureWe have no vaccineWe have only piss-poor testingThe potential is present for total devastation.Because of our inability to test the entire population, quickly and economically we are unable to analyze what has occurred, anticipate what is happening currently, or predict what may happen.Our current test data only tells us how many people tested positive OUT OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TESTED! A tiny percentage of the total population.
Social distancing, at least, allows us to slow the spread of this disease (while sparing some) giving us the resources to process the sick, dying, and dead.Efficient wide-spread testing is coming and that is the key. It makes no sense to let contaminated people return to work thereby endangering the entire population.
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I wish I knew what to do. I think we should be careful, but this whole "everything closes, but you can wander around Walmart, HomeDepot, buy pot, lottery tickets and booze" is just ridiculous. Its either a pandemic or its not. They should let people operate in a safe manor if they are going to let all of that other nonsense take place. If they said "no stores can have ANYONE inside....only curbside deliveries for everything" I think I would take them more serious about it, but just seeing the craziness they are letting happen is enough for me to think no matter what their rules are we are all screwed in every way we can be. They aren't limiting things enough to actually stop anything.....so why wreck the economy too???? 3 -
I agree with Casey on this one they're still running the bus service here if there is any place to spread the virus that is it 0 -
NYC: Pop; 8,399,000
Cases: Currently 236,743
Deaths: Currently 13,362
98.4% of NYC residents are not symptomatic of the virus
99.89% of NYC residents are NOT DEAD from the virus....and the numbers are FALLING. Go on, spread the FEAR, you pathetic defeatists.0 -
I'm not keen on figuring out how to live through a depression, so you'll pardon me if I think a risk vs reward calculation needs to be done. I'd prefer things be opened back up before one of the top post lockdown activities is waiting in a huge line outside of a food bank. 0 -
One death would be a tragedy, a million dead is just a statistic. Stalin 0 -
No better for us with a concession business that needs crowds for business. We have already had all of our business cancelled for May and June and July is looking like the same. We are preparing for the whole 2020 season to be cancelled.FrancF said:All I can say is, for contractor's like me its turning into a nightmare.
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Not all farmers are working. My brother in Michigan can't even buy seed, though he's only a back yard "farmer". 0 -
What scares most folks is the thought of going to work, or the supermarket, & catching the virus, & infecting their family, friends, & neighbors. I think the way to do this is to wait until there 30-40 million 5 minute tests available. Every area will test all employees when they arrive for work; 14 days with no one testing +, open things up. "Hope for the best" is not an option.Neal
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If they closed grocery stores most Americans would have starved, Wal-Mart and Target benefited greatly by selling groceries and therefore got to stay open selling just about anything. It isn't "fair" to close restaurants and bars but its the entire purpose of government to protect the citizens. 0 -
What was really not fair was what they did to drug stores around here. They said prescriptions and medical supplies were essential but not other things like makeup, beauty supplie, office supplies etc.mogley98 said:If they closed grocery stores most Americans would have starved, Wal-Mart and Target benefited greatly by selling groceries and therefore got to stay open selling just about anything. It isn't "fair" to close restaurants and bars but its the entire purpose of government to protect the citizens.
So I went to Walgreens to pick my prescription and they had yellow caution tape all over those areas with signs that they could not sell those items yet the big Walmart down the road was open.0 -
Well off the top of my head we had not one but three pandemics in the 20th century that were worse than this in the US in terms of how many people died. They didn't put everyone on house arrest, destroy tens of thousands of small businesses, the savings of many citizens, and didn't put record numbers of people out of work. There's a lot of unintended negative consequences from the current course that too few seem to consider.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/will-the-shutdown-cause-more-deaths-than-it-saves.php
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/bad-economic-news-increases-suicide-rates-new-research/3 -
Funny thing to me. Made a run to a near buy farm equipment dealer for a spreader. Crossed 3 state lines and didn't get shot at or cussed out. I did see a more than unusual amount of open carry side arms.
Took the wife along and she almost wet her pants, she has not been out "shopping" in over a month, had to keep a close reign on her, kid in the candy shop thing, she even was looking at tractors.
She just had to go to helmart for some items, she came back mad as the devil by the way she was treated by the system, employees were AOK though.Now the funny thing, we stopped at DQ for a burger and while setting in the parking lot eating our prime rib dinner we began looking around to see what essential business's were open. All carry out eatery's, dollar stores, helmart, gas stations, hardwares, lumber yards, you name it.Looked across the road and there was a ice cream shop, small mom and pop type, you guessed it a line 10 cars long.
What really flames my butt is they can be up and running but not one church sigh with "open for business" to be seen.If anyone thinks this demic is just by chance, hang on there is going to be a rough ride ahead in the years to come.Oh and I did get the spreader and enjoyed the drive through 84's backyard. Sorry no Taco Bell, KFC, or Mikes BBQ.
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Yes Butchdog, I am afraid what will take place, with the economy, and a large portion of small businesses, closed for good is what will really screw us big time.
My Sister and I picked up my Mom, from the Hospital in Boone, and took to the Rehab facility in Elizabethton today. (Serious Convid19 restrictions on admittance.) Which we appreciated. We were noticing all the smaller businesses closed, yet beer stores, Lowes, Walmart, were open. Etc. It makes no sense.
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