Handcuffing question for LEO's
In America police handcuff folks behind their back using two pair if the suspect is a wide load. In watching TRAFFIC COPS on youtube filmed in England the Brits handcuff folks in the front. It seems handcuffs in the front are a waste of time and they could be used as a weapon against the officer.
Any ideas on this difference in cuffing?
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British criminals are more polite. They would never attack an arresting officer unlike the uncouth American variety of criminal. 6 -
First, cuffing from the rear provides easier/better control of the subject DURING the cuffing process, which is safer. It also allows for more effective control as you move the subject around. Rear cuffing also completely takes the subject's arms out of the equation, while front-cuffed arms can still be used to fight/choke, etc. Finally, rear-cuffing throws off balance quite a bit more than front-cuffing, in case a subject runs.
Anyhow, just my thoughts.
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British law enforcement officers are more polite also. They don't even feel the need to carry guns. Wait . . . now that I think about it that might not be the officer's idea.mohawk600 said:British criminals are more polite. They would never attack an arresting officer unlike the uncouth American variety of criminal.
Anyway - folks in England are just more polite that folks in the United States - or so I hear (usually from the folks from England).3 -
I bet in the last few years more than a few have wished they could have brought a gun to a knife fight. BobUS Military Guy said:
British law enforcement officers are more polite also. They don't even feel the need to carry guns. Wait . . . now that I think about it that might not be the officer's idea.mohawk600 said:British criminals are more polite. They would never attack an arresting officer unlike the uncouth American variety of criminal.
Anyway - folks in England are just more polite that folks in the United States - or so I hear (usually from the folks from England).
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It was policy at our department. If you did different you risk the wrath of the paper pushers. 0 -
I have watched about every episode of Adam 12 these last long weeks in reruns on ME TV. I have found it interesting how many cuffed arrests those two make in a half hour time slot! They always have the perp lay flat out on his stomach hands out at his side. Quickly frisked then the officer brings perps right hand up over his head and cuffs that wrist then brings it down and nabs the left arm down and cuffs them together behind the back. They have to help the criminal to his feet and into the cars backseat holding him behind the head to avoid injury to his noggin. The non driving officer always gets into the backseat along with the perp on the way to the jail house. 0 -
I remember forty-six years ago, in the Albany, New York Police Academy, doing handcuffing drills. An instructor was the perp, I did what they taught and handcuffed him behind his back, and placed him in the rear seat of a cruiser. Five minutes later he got out with the cuffs in his hand. He used a bobby pin he had and I missed patting him down..an eye opener... 0 -
Handcuffs are actually quite easy to pick,even when double locked.
There are numerous ways to apply the cuffs, and yes in a struggle with a guy, it is just get them on.
Cuffs with the chain linked between the two are the easiest to pick. The cuffs that are hinged together are much harder as they really restrict movement of the wrist.
I was taught (many years ago) to ideally place the cuffs with the keyholes facing upward, and the serated slide of the cuff towards the guys back. Always double lock the cuffs. Also turn the bad guys hands so his wrist are facing outward. This procedure makes it almost impossible to pick the lock. It also greatly reduces the ability of the cuffed guy being able to 'sit out' of the cuffs and bring his cuffed hands in front of him. The same procedure should be followed with the hinged cuffs. Many agencies adapt their own policy/procedure for cuffing.
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Most of us can see where you are going with this, Bruce.
There is good information here for recreational handcuffing. Pay particular attention to montanajoe's statement regarding sitting out of the cuffs.
Hope this helps.
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I'm wondering if handcuffing behind the back is a post war policy. I started looking at photos of the gangsters arrested during the 1930's, John Dillinger in particular- Public Ememy Number 1, and in every photos I saw where JD was in cuffs he was cuffed with his hands in front. I saw the same with Lucky Luciano, Machine Gun Kelly, and even Al Capone. 0 -
I have always maintained that cuffing a suspect's wrist to the opposite-side ankle would be the most effective way to control a prisoner.Run!Go ahead, scumbag, Run.I'm gonna jog along side and Taze your ear lobe.Hahahahahahahahaha.
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On most TV shows & movies, the perps voluntarily put their hands behind their back. Of course, this hardly ever happens in real life. It was usually a struggle & fight to cuff someone. Professional criminals were the easiest. Once you got them, it was just part of the job & they knew if they cooperated, they would be treated better. Wait, on one transport we did cuff the prisoner in the front. That way he could eat his White Castle burgers & wouldn't rat that we took a "slight" detour to get a sack. 0 -
Long distance transport in front, with a waist chain. Short term, just arrested? In the back, palms out, keyhole out. Trying to get limber and slip arms under your butt? Cuff through your belt in the back. Wanna spit? Your shirt goes over your head. 6 -
Sounds like you did more than a few transports.chme said:Long distance transport in front, with a waist chain. Short term, just arrested? In the back, palms out, keyhole out. Trying to get limber and slip arms under your butt? Cuff through your belt in the back. Wanna spit? Your shirt goes over your head.0 -
I went back and looked closely at the photo of MG Kelly and sure enough, he had what looks like some sort of chain around his waist. Dillinger was shown sleeping in a train seat and I saw the same thing...now that you told me what to look for.chme said:Long distance transport in front, with a waist chain.0 -
I'm guessing that in front with a waist chain on a long transport worked out best for pee breaks. You'd be looking for trouble un-cuffing the prisoner rather then handling his willy. 0 -
Transport chaining is a different policy altogether. Waist chains with handcuffs welded to waist chains. Separate chains for ankles. Chain-up is done in a secure facility. 0
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