These Folks won't be getting a Govt. Check
Falling through the cracks: Many Americans won't get coronavirus checks

WASHINGTON — For millions of Americans awaiting coronavirus cash, help is not on the way.
Although the $2 trillion stimulus bill passed last month includes payments of up to $1,200 for everyone who makes less than the limit, many Americans will fall through the cracks. That includes most college kids, immigrants without Social Security numbers and some disabled adults.
Why so many gaps? Part of it is the urgency that faced Congress as it rushed to get money to Americans as fast as possible. There wasn't much time to fine-tune the bill to address every contingency. Lawmakers opted to base eligibility on tax returns, even though many people don't file them.
Congress also wanted to ensure that the money goes to those who really need it now. Most Americans could use some extra cash even in the best of times. But some people's livelihoods have been more directly affected by the pandemic than others.
For those who qualify, payments will start going out from the IRS in mid-April. The IRS is using 2019 tax returns to determine eligibility or 2018 returns for those who haven't filed for 2019 yet.
Here's a look at who falls through the cracks:
College students and 17-year-olds
If someone else claims you as a dependent on their taxes, you won't get your own check. Parents will get an extra $500 payment per child, but that's only for kids under 17.
Most 17-year-olds, some young adults and many of the country's roughly 20 million college students are claimed by their parents as dependents. They won't get checks, and their parents won't get an extra $500.
"They're not on their own. And so you feed them and you still provide for them," said Susan Anderson of Lubbock, Texas, who has a 19-year-old at home and a 23-year-old about to graduate from college. "So you're not getting anything, and they're not getting anything. There's a huge gap."
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Disabled people whose parents support them
People who get disability benefits from the Social Security Administration or Veterans Affairs are eligible for the payments — but not disabled adults who are claimed as dependents by their parents or other relatives on their taxes.
Jennifer Irwin's son Simon, 21, who is nonverbal, lives about an hour's drive from her Delaware home at a center for disabled adults, where he was placed by the state. Because she claims him on her taxes, he won't get a check — a blow Irwin described as "another nail in the coffin."
"Just because he's not under 17 doesn't mean he should be excluded from the credit parents are getting. He's still entirely dependent. I still buy all his clothes," Irwin said. "It's discouraging. I mean, we struggle enough as it is."
Seniors living with their kids
Senior citizens who are on Social Security or make less than the income cap are eligible. But the "dependent" rule applies to them, too. Some seniors who live with their adult children or other relatives are claimed by them as dependents on their taxes. Those seniors won't get checks.
Immigrants without Social Security numbers
You don't have to be a U.S. citizen to get a payment. But you do need a valid Social Security number.
That means immigrants with green cards and those on H-1B and H-2A visas will get payments. Nonresident aliens, temporary workers and immigrants in the U.S. illegally won't.
Babies born in 2020
The $500 payment per child, like the individual payments, is based on 2019 taxes. So parents who welcomed babies into the world in the first months of this year won't get money for them now. Instead, they'll likely get $500 credits next year when they file their 2020 taxes.
Craig Schoenberger and his wife had their first child, Aaron, in February. He said they're finding that the pandemic is driving up prices for things like baby wipes and diapers.
"He has a Social Security number now. In some branch of the government, he does exist. But I guess as far as the stimulus package, he doesn't exist," Schoenberger said.
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High earners who lost their jobs
The size of the payments starts scaling down for those who made more than $75,000 last year and zeroes out at $98,000 or more.
But what if you exceeded the limit in 2019 only to lose your job or get a lower-paying job this year? You won't get a payment now, but you will get a credit on your taxes next year when the system catches up.
Parents who split custody
Some parents who aren't married and split custody of their kids take turns each year claiming them on their taxes. Because the payments go off your 2019 tax return, whoever has the even years is out of luck.
Recently divorced or estranged
Not everyone who filed taxes jointly with a spouse in 2019 is still married to that spouse — or on speaking terms.
Couples who filed their taxes jointly last year get a single, combined payment of up to $2,400. The funds will be deposited into whatever bank account was used to deposit your most recent tax refund, unless you update your direct deposit information with the IRS. But there's no system to inform the IRS that you have divorced or are estranged.
People who owe back child support
The stimulus law puts on hold other debts that typically lead to tax refunds' being garnished, such as overdue student loans or back taxes. But not child support. The coronavirus money can still be garnished if you're overdue on those payments.
Lydia Carloni said she and her partner, Steve, have had their hours cut because of the coronavirus. She said her partner owes back child support from about a decade ago but pays it back in weekly installments.
She said not getting the full coronavirus payment means she'll be short on "a huge chunk of my rent."
"That's exactly what I was planning on," Carloni said. "I'm getting ready to pay this month's rent. Now I've got it. I'm not going to have it next month."
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Oh no- the people who don’t file tax returns aren’t eligible for free stuff.
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My son found out last month that his 2018 Tax return was rejected?? Found out after his 2019 was also rejected.His payment sent in with the for 2018 was processed.
He resubmitted the 2018 the day he found out, but has not heard and any thing. Can't do 2019 until the 2108 clears !!
IRS is closed for phone inquires.
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Several of those listed as slipping thru the crack should. Illegals... back child support... night earners who lost their jobs but didn’t have 6 months expenses...
Several others listed - sorry - too bad.
i hate to be that guy - but the one-time $1200 / 2400 / 500 isn’t going to put anyone out of financial straits. It’ll help buy some necessities but that’s about all. People need to plan ahead and be prepared for the bad times. I’m not saying everyone should be on their own. But way too many people didn’t plan ahead. Had they planned ahead, the financial aid amount would be much smaller. It’s the old saying “improper planning on their part doesn’t make it an emergency for other”0 -
Warbirds said:
Oh no- the people who don’t file tax returns aren’t eligible for free stuff.
Well said, sir.0 -
WT is correct. We have another term to describe immigrants without a Social Security number; it's "illegal aliens". 0 -
You don't have to be a U.S. citizen to get a payment. But you do need a valid Social Security number.
That means immigrants with green cards and those on H-1B and H-2A visas will get payments. Nonresident aliens, temporary workers and immigrants in the U.S. illegally won't.
What about Hookers??!!! Kinda hard to have sex and stay socially distant!
HURRAY!
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just heard on the radio, that the direct deposits should be going out by the middle of month, if your tax return last year was direct deposit, if not you will be getting a check and it will probubly be in ,,,,,,,AUGUST!!!!!!!! guess it takes 3 months to write a check....... 0 -
You people are so quick to judge others without knowing anything about that persons history or situation.0
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Hoosier, whoever told you the 2019 cannot be filed until the 2018 is processed gave you wrong information. The 2019 can definitely be filed. If there is a refund on the 2019 return, they may not issue the 2019 refund until the 2018 is in their system, but the return can be filed. Unfortunately, because the 2018 filing was never completed and he owed a balance on the return, he will be assessed late filing penalties which can become pretty significant, depending on how much he owed. 0 -
Since I always get a paper check through the mail I wonder how long it'll take for me to get mines? 0 -
We do paper checks .. I reckon it will get here about the time I have to mail Uncle Sam the tax money.yoshmyster said:Since I always get a paper check through the mail I wonder how long it'll take for me to get mines?
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For the most part, those that are listed are not financially worse off because of the virus. IMO, if we are doing this, it should be targeted to those who are damaged by government dictates which have closed businesses and reduced economic activity. Receipt of this money is not a right, after all. 3 -
heard on the news it may be august before the paper checks get issued/sent out........yoshmyster said:Since I always get a paper check through the mail I wonder how long it'll take for me to get mines?
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Don makes a good point. I live on retirement checks that are automatically deposited in my checking account. This pandemic isn't going to cost me much, just the $100/month that delivery charges for my food will cost me. There are a lot of good folks out there that work hard to put food on their table, that deserve help a lot more than I do.
The problem is, how do you evaluate every family in the country, & figure out who is most deserving? We tried that once that I recall, with the families of the 9/11 victims; Congress authorized a secret payout, based on the "worth" of each person who lost his life. They figured that a bus boy at the rooftop restaurant was worth about $1M, while a manager at a stock broker was worth at least $5M.
I hate to think how much bureaucracy it will take to figure out how much 200M employees are worth. It would require a new federal agency, with at least 50,000 employees (for 20 years, if there is no recurrence of the virus), plus headquarters, field offices, & union reps. Trump could put his Slum Lord son-in-law in charge of the project, he's not busy.
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You wouldn't need to evaluate everyone. Just let each States unemployment handle it. No more and no less. Bobnmyers said:Don makes a good point. I live on retirement checks that are automatically deposited in my checking account. This pandemic isn't going to cost me much, just the $100/month that delivery charges for my food will cost me. There are a lot of good folks out there that work hard to put food on their table, that deserve help a lot more than I do.
The problem is, how do you evaluate every family in the country, & figure out who is most deserving? We tried that once that I recall, with the families of the 9/11 victims; Congress authorized a secret payout, based on the "worth" of each person who lost his life. They figured that a bus boy at the rooftop restaurant was worth about $1M, while a manager at a stock broker was worth at least $5M.
I hate to think how much bureaucracy it will take to figure out how much 200M employees are worth. It would require a new federal agency, with at least 50,000 employees (for 20 years, if there is no recurrence of the virus), plus headquarters, field offices, & union reps. Trump could put his Slum Lord son-in-law in charge of the project, he's not busy.
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I don't think the big issue was, "How do we get money into the hands of individuals that need it?".The issue was, "How do we carpet bomb our economy with cash?"Where do people get the idea that the government is here to help them?
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The stimulus program was intended to help the PRODUCERS in America who have lost income due to the virus.
The entitlement system alone and I am talking about welfare programs are enough to sustain the societal parasites.0
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