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  • mark christian
    If it is a Winchester Carbine then the Cody Firearms Museum may have information. 

    https://centerofthewest.org/explore/firearms/firearms-records/
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  • rufe-snow
    I have a reference, "Military Arms Research Service". That lists Winchester as the manufacturer, of 828,000 Carbines between 1941 & 1945. The only ones that were questionable? Were the 180,000 that were originally assigned to Underwood. The were finished by Winchester. Many had the Underwood name, lined out on the receiver.

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  • mrmike08075

    As an author, collector and historian of post Civil War weaponry, BruceCanfield.com is the definitive source for U.S. weapons collectors around the world. Bruce is an internationally recognized Historian and long time collector of U.S. Military weapons and has written twelve books on U.S. Military Weaponry. We hope you enjoy BruceCanfield.com.


    Bruce is probably the definitive expert in this field...


    Mike

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  • nmyers
    Hmm.  You may want to recheck your serial number.  If your carbine has had an adjustable sight installed, the original SN will be under the rear sight overhang; the same number should have been restamped behind it.  Use tracing paper & a pencil to read an SN under the rear sight, DO NOT REMOVE THE REAR SIGHT.
    Bruce Canfield's "Complete Guide to the M1 Garand and the M1 Carbine" is pretty comprehensive.  For lighter research, many folks will be happy with Craig Riesch's inexpensive "US M1 Carbines, Wartime Production".
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  • wiz1997
    Two sites with a wealth of info.
    First one you can enter serial number and it will tell you how it left the factory.
    Just remember, after an Arsenal rebuild no telling what parts were installed, which is why the M1 Carbine is often referred to as a mix master.
    http://uscarbinecal30m1.com/Default.aspx

    http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/
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  • RCrosby

    Will check out the references so generously supplied. No visible serial number, only a single letter stamped to rear of rear sight. Now I'm curious about the possibility of a number under the rear sight, but noted the caution to NOT REMOVE THE REAR SIGHT. Seems like I'd have to in order to check for a hidden number, no?

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  • nmyers

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  • nmyers

    If it looks like this, you have hit the jackpot. Otherwise, please post a photo.

    Neal

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  • RCrosby

    Neal, That's it! Exactly like mine. A second on in the family is marked "B".

    What does this mean?

    Thanks, Rob

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  • nmyers

    Rob, the carbine IS yours; you sent me the photo about 15 years ago.

    I have a few more reference books now. According to Bruce Canfield's "Complete Reference Guide to the M1 Garand and the M1 Carbine", Winchester gave out few presentation carbines to their employees. After WW2, they considered commercial production of the M1 carbine, but made only 3 "pilot" carbines.

    Since your carbine appears not to have a serial number, it wouldn't have been recorded in military records. It may be difficult to authenticate it, but the value would undoubtedly increase if you could document it. I'd take Mark's advice & check with the Cody museum.

    Neal

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  • RCrosby

    Neil,

    That's too funny. I'm sitting here thinking "I thought I had the only one labeled "A".

    THE RESEMBLANCE WAS STRIKING! ;-)

    CODY will be my next stop.

    May be a while but I'll let you know.

    Thanks for staying with me on this. Rob

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