How to deactivate a firearm
Can a revolver be sold as deactivated (no FFL needed) by sawing off the top strap?
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I think they (BATF ) have set rules of where and how to cut and how much metal has to be taken to leave gaps ( as in torch cut ) in any gun to meet there guidelines check there web site
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Ok. I bid on a like new .22 Mag revolver just because it didn't need an FFL and the shipping was $9 USPS. It had the top strap cut off and a cut 3/4 of the way through the frame at the front of the cylinder. Thanks! 0 -
Why would you want such an item? 0 -
I think that the "rules" to which you refer are in ATF P5300.4, & apply to the importation of specific firearms. They describe the exact way to torch cut the gun. I believe that, for general cases within the US, altering a firearm so that it cannot be "readily restored" to firing condition may take a firearm out of the "firearm" category; state & local laws may vary.I think that I could thoroughly mutilate most .22 revolvers, & still fire them. I would not ship a firearm as you describe without first completely removing the front part of the frame (with barrel), or unless I had a decision letter from ATF saying that it is legal. I hate prison food.
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Note: I make no claim to being the legal wizard. You wanna disagree with me, knock yourself out.
Some time back I did have some rifle receivers that were worthless to me. They had served as organ donors to other rifles, but were still on my "acquired" book of firearms (03 C&R FFL). I checked with the BATFE firearms technical branch on how a gun could legally become a non gun. Their answer was to torch cut the receiver diagonally into 3 pieces, or to totally melt it. No saw cuts. Torch removes a minimum of 1/4 inch of metal each cut.
Based on that, I would not be comfortable with just removing the top strap of a revolver. The goal is to permanently render the gun from being able to be restored to shooting condition. But if you want the definitive answer, go to the firearms technical branch. They are the people that the BATFE field offices call when THEY need a decision.0 -
I remember back about 40 years ago there was an add in SHOTGUN NEWS which featured S&W revolvers which had been 'smooshed' in a press. These were not for parts, they were being sold as paperweights so you could show people what our government does to naughty guns. The frames were buckled a little, the trigger guard and hammer were flattened...well, maybe you remember the ad. Ad claimed to have a million dollars worth of S&Ws in that condition. 0 -
kannoneer said:Ok. I bid on a like new .22 Mag revolver just because it didn't need an FFL and the shipping was $9 USPS. It had the top strap cut off and a cut 3/4 of the way through the frame at the front of the cylinder. Thanks!
How was it remotely like new?0 -
In a galaxy far far away............... 0 -
Why would you even consider bidding on such a lump of worthless metal ??? I understand a military weapon for just a wall hanger but a revolver ???????? 0 -
The springs and other various parts have value.Cornflk1 said:Why would you even consider bidding on such a lump of worthless metal ??? I understand a military weapon for just a wall hanger but a revolver ????????
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JB weld should fix it right up! 0 -
It had 100 to 150 dollars worth of parts, easy. Unfortunately, it went for 250 bucks. It was new; the box was included. S&W Model 48, made in 1980. It wasn't on GunBroker. But if you think guns are worthless just because the frame is broken, look at the 'parts kits' here or on other sites; it is amazing what some of them sell for. In some cases more than what a complete and functional firearm would bring. 0
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