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  • wundudnee
    That's pretty cool. I like it. It looks like the seller puts pretty optimistic opening bids on his auctions.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    I wonder what the folks running the YMCA think about gun giveaways today.


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  • kimi
    Good comments, both!!!
    It would be nice to know if Winchester Engraved the gun for the winner.  Maybe, maybe not, either way it's really neat.  Robert and his people lived in and around Clifton Springs, NY, throughout his life.
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  • select-fire
    Nice old Winchester
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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator
    Google-  Robert Waddell.   


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  • kannoneer
    Cool! Looks like the inscription did not add too much to the price. Appears to be engraved by a local jeweler. They did a lot of that type of work back then, such as watches, love tokens, trophies, etc. Also I believe Clifton Springs is in New York. The Waddells were prominent citizens at the time.
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  • Grasshopper
     That is to cool. And the month/day is my birthday.:)
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  • kimi
    I did not get interested in learning about, buying, and trading old guns until the early/mid 90s, but it is a buyers market today, for most all of them except the high conditioned ones.  So, if you are just getting started or wanting an old shooter or two...BUY NOW!  This little gun might well be a jewel in many respects where provenance is concerned should one want to go there and do the research.  Of course, the engraving (two different types) is going to diminish the price in one sense...but it is so CHEAP for its condition and the cost of any after market engraving...aside from likely having been in the family up until very recently...say 5 to 10 years ago...which could easily be checked out...it's a great buy.  Now, for those who harp on buy the gun and not the story...few people would do that anyway...the story so far about this little gun will grab a lot of attention!
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  • gearheaddad

    Very interesting old gun. I agree James, it's a great price on a nice rifle. I like the engraving, it adds to the nostalgia of that rifle for sure! I too believe the engraving was probably done by a local Jeweler.

    What a prize that must of been back in 06. Wow! When Robert was a little guy, that had to be his most most treasured possesion!

    Cant wait to see what it actually brings.

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  • dreher
    That "kid" would probably be about 130 years old if he was alive today!!
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  • kimi

    Very interesting old gun. I agree James, it's a great price on a nice rifle. I like the engraving, it adds to the nostalgia of that rifle for sure! I too believe the engraving was probably done by a local Jeweler.

    What a prize that must of been back in 06. Wow! When Robert was a little guy, that had to be his most most treasured possesion!

    Cant wait to see what it actually brings.

    Lots of nostalgia for sure, Ed.  Ya'll are probably right about the engraving being done by a local jeweler.  I'm thinking he was about 9 or 10 when he won it.  He went on to have a son and a grandson named Robert...if I remember correctly.  So, the gun was likely handed down from generation to generation, possibly until about 10 years ago.  


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  • kimi
    dreher said:
    That "kid" would probably be about 130 years old if he was alive today!!
    Not far off!!!
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  • Spider7115
    I would probably try to find his family and offer it to them for what I paid for it. I know I'd love to own my great-grandfather's rifle that he won as a boy.
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  • gearheaddad
    Spider7115: 31535477483931/comments/31535538619931
    I would probably try to find his family and offer it to them for what I paid for it. I know I'd love to own my great-grandfather's rifle that he won as a boy.

    Yeah, wouldn't that be something!

    I would just like to have his rifle! (I'm not sure if he ever owned a rifle!) I do have my Great Grandfathers pocket watch and an old revolver a Chicago Police Captain gave my my Great Grandfather around 1920.

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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator
    I stated a few post up to google the name.  The family is still in Mo.  Trappers.  Several articles on the family, interesting reads. 
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  • kimi
    Dealers are still bidding on it.  In better markets that would be an indication that it was about one half the market value, but with a market softer than it has been in more than 25 years...perhaps, it will bring another 250 to 300 dollars.
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  • kimi
    I wonder what the folks running the YMCA think about gun giveaways today.


    No doubt!
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  • kimi
    montanajoe said:
    I stated a few post up to google the name.  The family is still in Mo.  Trappers.  Several articles on the family, interesting reads. 
    Joe, are your sure that this Robert Waddell is from New York State?   When the gun was first listed, I tracked his family, the Robert line past 2000 and they were still around Clifton Springs or not far off at all.  I'm figuring that the gun was handed down through the Robert line since there were not many other males in said the lineage.  I also wondered if one of the Roberts moved to Missouri, slap dab in the middle of James-Younger country, to include Lees Summit, itself...home of the Youngers.   I also found that a lot of Waddell's, Roberts included were southerners.  Still, you have a great point and, if you are correct, it would make a lot of sense as to how the gun ended up in this part of Missouri.  This could be checked out rather easily should one have the mind to do it.
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