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  • SCOUT5
    I wasn't aware they were ever uninstalled.   I attended shop class in high school and most high schools still have that.

    In my area vocational school is available for those that wish to use it.   The high schools have shop class but they do not have auto, janitorial, drafting, HVAC etc.   There are not enough students in the schools to support the programs and it would be a huge waste of money to have them in every high school.  The answer is a vocational school that can support these programs because it pulls students from all the schools.   By doing it this way there are good, well funded well supplied vocational programs available.  Here there are buses that transport those attending from the their high school to the vocational school and back.  

    President Trumps proposal that there be multi-vocational programs in every high school isn't resource feasible.   Of course they may be more feasible if the red tape government expenses were reasonable, which they aren't.   


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  • discusdad
    my son is a Vo-tech ed teacher in Corvallis Mt  since 2005. he teaches the "wood" part,  another teacher handles the "metals"  part  as he was nearing college graduation in may, he received over 50 job offers in april.  may brought over 150+ more offers..  Miami Dade County public schools offered a starting salary of $75,000,real estate tax abatement for 3 years and countless other perks.  i think son told me at the time,  nearly 400 openings  were available,  and there was less than 40 graduates in the field in 2005.
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  • select-fire
    I also believe in on the job training and to reward companies willing to train on the job. 
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  • SCOUT5
    I also believe in on the job training and to reward companies willing to train on the job. 
    If done right the rewards for the companies are built into the program.  They get some work out of the student while training and they get to evaluate them for future employment while doing it.  The company gets to offer jobs, post graduation, to the pick of the litter so to speak.    
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  • charliemeyer007
    My dad always said people go to school to learn how to cheat.
    I think its a great idea to actually teach real skills, like how to work a backhoe or fix one.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    discusdad: 31535406948251/comments/31535438452379
    my son is a Vo-tech ed teacher in Corvallis Mt  since 2005. he teaches the "wood" part,  another teacher handles the "metals"  part  as he was nearing college graduation in may, he received over 50 job offers in april.  may brought over 150+ more offers..  Miami Dade County public schools offered a starting salary of $75,000,real estate tax abatement for 3 years and countless other perks.  i think son told me at the time,  nearly 400 openings  were available,  and there was less than 40 graduates in the field in 2005.

    Wow!

    That is impressive.

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  • jimdeere
    I went to community college out of high school. The guys in my class who had gone to vocational school in high school were way ahead of me.
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  • mogley98
    I wasn't the best student by far, Dad signed me up for Masonry training and after working at it for a summer I became a MUCH better student!
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  • Ricci.Wright
    I made a stool shaped like a turtle.
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  • Ricci.Wright
    When I was in High School in the 1970's there were classes in Masonry, electrical, wood and metal working, home economics, and auto shop. All good ways to make a good living. 
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  • hillbille
    I made a stool shaped like a turtle
     seems like mine allways turned out like hersey kisses.......
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  • Smitty500mag
    hillbille said:
    I made a stool shaped like a turtle
     seems like mine allways turned out like hersey kisses.......
    And now we have members of the forum bragging about their talent in the outhouse. What a competitive bunch of guys. That's enough to bring tears to one's eyes just being amongst such greatness.   :'(
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  • select-fire
    When I was in High School in the 1970's there were classes in Masonry, electrical, wood and metal working, home economics, and auto shop. All good ways to make a good living. 

    And a lot of x tra Teachers for those classes.
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  • Butchdog2
    Yep about 45 years ago, lots of vocational classes in high school.
    Not so much now.
    I have been a custom home builder for over 40 years and have been blessed with some of the best tradesmen to be had.
    We were working on a gentleman's house a while back, some of the workmen make well over 30.00 per hour, he said that is more than I make as a computer programmer, I said what is your point?
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  • Warbirds

    I think vocational skills are valuable, but dammit someone should teach those guys to run a business as well!

    So many contractors out there cant be where they say they will be, to do the job they bid, for the price they quoted.

    There are plenty of people capable of doing great hands on work, why is it so rare to find one who is also competent in the basics of running a business?

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  • love2shoot
    I remember when we were all laid off.
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