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  • gruntled2
    Warbirds said:

    My network is saying CFIT.

    Controlled Flight Into Terrain.

    It was foggy and the Helo pilot drove it into the side of a mountain.

    Not exactly, "The preliminary data suggests the aircraft, which crashed about 40 minutes after takeoff, briefly climbed to a top altitude of above 2,500 feet before it descended at a high rate before the crash."

    It will probably be quite a while before they will have a final report about the rapid decent if they are ever able.


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  • Rocky Raab
    I guess I don't get the massive weeping and adulation. Yes he was (I'm told) a great basketball player. But did he contribute anything to mankind or his country besides a bit of entertainment? If not, he's no more important a figure than 99.999999% of everyone else who ever lived. In my book, any clerk typist corporal in the Army deserves more credit.
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  • 76k20
    Helicopter was owned by the State of Illinois prior to crash:


    C&P:

    By Ben Orner / of Capitol News Illinois
    Posted at 1:49 PM

    The luxury helicopter that crashed Sunday morning in California, killing all nine people on board including former NBA star Kobe Bryant, was once owned by the state of Illinois.

    The Sikorsky S-76B helicopter was built in 1991, according to the Federal Aviation Administration’s aircraft registry. The state of Illinois used it from 2007 to 2015, according to helicopter information database Helis.

    Under the direction of former Gov. Bruce Rauner, the state sold the helicopter along with four other surplus aircraft in 2015 for $2.5 million. Rauner said selling the aircraft “also avoided an additional $1 million in inspections and repairs,” according to an Associated Press story after the sales.

    The winning bid for the helicopter was $515,161, placed by user “Jimbagge1,” according to a listing on the state’s online auction website, iBid. Both the aircraft and its two engines had just under 4,000 hours of airframe time when the copter was sold.

    At the time of the crash, the registered owner of the helicopter was Island Express Holding Corp of Van Nuys, Calif., which registered it a month after it was won at auction.

    The state of Illinois previously attempted to sell the helicopter in 2014 but received zero bids, according to that auction’s iBid listing.

    A public information officer at the Illinois Department of Transportation, which maintains state aircraft, did not have any available information regarding the helicopter or its uses for the state.

    The copter’s information page on Helis, however, labels it as “VIP Governor.”

    A public information officer for the governor’s office also did not have available information. A public information officer for the Illinois Department of Central Management Services, which operates iBid, did not immediately respond to a request for more information.

    Sikorsky is a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, an American defense contractor.

    Bryant, 41, played for the Los Angeles Lakers from 1996 to 2016. He won five NBA championships, the Most Valuable Player award in 2008 and appeared in 18 all-star games.

    One of his four daughters, Gianna, 13, was also killed in Sunday’s crash. Bryant also leaves behind his wife of 18 years, Vanessa.



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  • CaptFun
    Pilot was also an instructor in helos. Had his IFR rating..
    He could have switched to IFR from VFR , Climbed to clear sky and waited but doing so in LAX airspace would have cost lots of time.  If there was a mechanical issue whatever it was by the time he realized,  it was sphincter factor 5  out of time.   

    CFIT 
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  • SCOUT5
    He had money, he took helicopters on a regular basis to avoid car traffic and save time.   So he spent quite a bit of time flying.  Odds are odds, that day they lost as long a shot as it was.   Sorry for the people involved and the family left to mourn.  This is no different than anyone else dying in a transportation crash.  Most families have lost people this way.  
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  • KenK/84Bravo

    Since when can you purchase a "Luxury," Helicopter for $550,000? Or even a regular Helicopter, for that matter, at that price?

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  • Rocky Raab
    When you're the highest bidder, obviously.
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  • cbxjeff
    It was mentioned earlier here that it was due for $1M for inspection and repairs.  I suspect he paid more than that for luxury.
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  • shilowar

    Since when can you purchase a "Luxury," Helicopter for $550,000? Or even a regular Helicopter, for that matter, at that price?

    Well it was a 24 year old helicopter, with a significant amount of maintenance required.  You can find a "luxury" Rolls Royce for relatively cheap too if it requires double it's price in maintenance.  
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  • pulsarnc

    The pilot was a CFI in choppers and was IFR rated . I doubt that he would be flying a chopper that was out of annual inspection and in need of repair. My guess is unforeseen mechanical malfunction that he could not recover from

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  • select-fire
    It wasn't equipped with the updated Terrain Terrain Terrain... Boom...  that was required in 2004
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  • bambihunter
    From 2007 to 2015, the helicopter was owned by the State of Illinois, part of a fleet used to transport government officials. The state sold the helicopter at auction for $515,161, according to a state database cited by The State Journal-Register of Springfield, Ill
    Yeah, they probably sabotaged it thinking it would be bought by a pro-gun advocate in AC. ;)
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  • Mr. Perfect
    All I know is the hollywierdos sure seem to be willing to overlook the credible rape allegations for which he settled out of court.
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  • neacpa
    I could only imagine the thoughts going through someone's mind when they realize they are only seconds from death not only for yourself but also your daughter.  Must have been hell knowing what was about to happen to his daughter.   I know it would be for me.
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  • redneckandy

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  • Rocky Raab
    I understand that there's now a crowd source to buy Colin Kaepernick a helicopter...
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  • SW0320
    Rocky Raab said:
    I understand that there's now a crowd source to buy Colin Kaepernick a helicopter...
    If there only was one I know a lot of veterans that might contribute.
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  • select-fire
    I want to do the pre flight inspection
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