Survival cartridge/caliber
Seemingly for decades the venerable 22lr has been considered to be THE goto survival round. Its versatility is hard to argue but it has plenty of weaknesses as well. What do you consider to be the ultimate survival cartridge if not the 22LR and why?
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30-06 Springfield. It is capable of neutralizing anything with a heartbeat on the North American continent.
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Sorry. First thing I thought of when reading the thread title, before opening it - was the ubiquitous .22LR/Mag.
A combo gun like the venerable Savage mdl 24, in a .22mag over a 20ga would be the perfect survival gun. Perfect, provided you are not in Bear Country. I currently own a 24V in .30-.30 over a 20ga. I'd feel a little more comfortable with that.
Sorry to go off topic. Carry on.
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Sorry. First thing I thought of when reading the thread title, before opening it - was the ubiquitous .22LR/Mag.
A combo gun like the venerable Savage mdl 24, in a .22mag over a 20ga would be the perfect survival gun. Perfect, provided you are not in Bear Country. I currently own a 24V in .30-.30 over a 20ga. I'd feel a little more comfortable with that.
Sorry to go off topic. Carry on.
How are you off topic?
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Mr. Perfect: 31534713128987/comments/31534713722651
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How are you off topic?
Took a tangent off to a favorite survival firearm, not the cartridge.
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I'm in agreement of the 22LR for survival. In my neck of the woods we don't have the dangerous game to worry about, with the exception of the occasional black bears that migrate over from PA, and the right shot placement could still take down whitetail. A shotgun can be very versatile , although with drawbacks as well. I think the area a person is trying to survive in will dictate the correct caliber choice and ultimately any caliber is better than no caliber 😁.
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Horse Plains Drifter: 31534713128987/comments/31534713279259
30-06 Springfield. It is capable of neutralizing anything with a heartbeat on the North American continent.
How is it, when you are trying to take a squirrel/rabbit? 😮
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I don't think it would be very productive to shoot squirrels and rabbits and such with a 30-06 , not much left to eat other than the tails. 🙄
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My point exactly.
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How is it, when you are trying to take a squirrel/rabbit? 😮
Quite lethal in my experience. Aim for the head if you want any meat.
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Quite lethal in my experience. Aim for the head if you want any meat.
Yes exactly, the same as shooting grouse. Easy peasy.
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(And) How many rounds of .30-.06 can you carry compared to .22lr/mag? Head shots on squirrels, good luck with that. Yard squirrels okay. Woods squirrels, Mmnnn...............not so much.
Just me. Not trying to harsh on you. Don't take it personal.
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Well, Ken I've plugged countless whistle pigs with 30.06. YMMV. Even if it didn't hit them in the head there was plenty left.
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A good 12 ga pump gun with sights and a variety of bullets. With slugs, buckshot, and birdshot it would handle most anything inside 150 yards.
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I guess you have to define survival for me. To keep from starving if lost in the wild then 22lr. More deer have probably been poached with a 22 than any other cartridge. Survival if society breaks down then I want at minimum 5.56/223. Bob
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I guess you have to define survival for me. To keep from starving if lost in the wild then 22lr. More deer have probably been poached with a 22 than any other cartridge. Survival if society breaks down then I want at minimum 5.56/223. Bob
Exactly wide open topic
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Ammo is the key. What do you have ammo for and how much can you carry. 22lr can be found most anywhere.
2nd is what are we surviving? Just rustling groceries it's hard to beat the 22, but you have more versatility with a shotgun.
Ken, pack some good slugs along and that 20ga becomes a bear gun.
If a man's going to reload and laid in a supply I think the 22 hornet would be hard to beat. Load it up or down, it sips powder, isn't to hard on brass, can be safely loaded with a hand loader and powder scoop. It can handle deer with out issue and larger game with good head shots. The Inuits kill polar bear with it if that is what they have with them when them get the chance.
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I would take a long look at the 357 Mag/.38 special.
Revolver and a lever action rifle makes a decent combination. Still can carry a lot of rounds, plus you have a lot more energy when needed.
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Ammo is the key. What do you have ammo for and how much can you carry. 22lr can be found most anywhere.
2nd is what are we surviving? Just rustling groceries it's hard to beat the 22, but you have more versatility with a shotgun.
Ken, pack some good slugs along and that 20ga becomes a bear gun.
If a man's going to reload and laid in a supply I think the 22 hornet would be hard to beat. Load it up or down, it sips powder, isn't to hard on brass, can be safely loaded with a hand loader and powder scoop. It can handle deer with out issue and larger game with good head shots. The Inuits kill polar bear with it if that is what they have with them when them get the chance.
I am way ahead of you Brother. I stock a fair amount of 20ga Slugs. I have 3 20ga.'s.
I am big on carrying a decent amount of ammunition for every firearm I own. My Bud's kept buying the newest greatest firearm and caliber out there, at the last 10 gunshows or so. Me, I buy ammunition and magazines for what I already own. Think ahead.
How do you like me now?
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It requires skill to take bunnies with an 06 and have enough left to eat unless you are shooting ball/AP or cast bullets.
22 Hornet brass is thin and doesn't last for a lot of reloads, and I don't think you can make it from anything.
I like my 45-350 RM made by P.O. Ackley. It will shoot shot as good as any no choke 410 and at about twice the velocity. The rifle is 5.25 pounds loaded with the sling. 350 gr Jacketed bullets can start down range as 2358 FPS.
Plus I can reload the cases with only a punch for the primers.
Most people would give it back if they shot full tilt loads.
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Horse Plains Drifter: 31534713128987/comments/31534713279259
30-06 Springfield. It is capable of neutralizing anything with a heartbeat on the North American continent.
Absolutely Agree.
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Hard to argue with a .22LR when you take everything into consideration. That's the caliber that has always gotten my vote.
Jon
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Have to go with 22lr If allowed I too would team it with the savage 24 in 20 ga.
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