35 Whelen handi rifle
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Have this on my watch list. I think this would make a good utility rifle for someone on the north woods country. or something to have behind the truck seat in case your wanted to take a stroll after work for deer, elk, moose, bear, what ever.
I would like to have it but I need to not to that right now, besides, the biggest thing we have here is deer and I've got a 375 H&H if I get to moose country.
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That qualifies as a primitive weapon? I guess I am unfamiliar with areas that have those hunts and the rules they would have.
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Mr. Perfect: 31534513489435/comments/31534532751387
That qualifies as a primitive weapon? I guess I am unfamiliar with areas that have those hunts and the rules they would have.
In some states down south these type rifles qualify as a primitive weapon, not here where I live. I hunt a lot with singles shots and this would make a good all around big game rifle but the cartridge isn't really needed here and could only be used for deer on private property anyway. The 35 Whelen is a stout cartridge, the boys in the north east woods states like New York and Main really like it.
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In some states down south these type rifles qualify as a primitive weapon, not here where I live. I hunt a lot with singles shots and this would make a good all around big game rifle but the cartridge isn't really needed here and could only be used for deer on private property anyway. The 35 Whelen is a stout cartridge, the boys in the north east woods states like New York and Main really like it.
Ok. I get that. Which of the features of this rifle qualifies it as primitive? That it's a single shot?
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Exposed hammer fired single shot, I think but i really don't know. Some of them may have a cartridge limit as well, such as straight wall cartridge etc. So this rifle in 35 Whelen may not make the cut.
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Here are the regulations in Mississippi:
Primitive Weapons
Weapons legal for use during the Primitive Weapons season are all archery equipment and primitive firearms. "Primitive firearms," for the purpose of hunting deer, are defined as single or double-barreled muzzleloading rifles of at least .38 caliber; OR single shot, breech loading, metallic cartridge rifles (.35 caliber or larger) and replicas, reproductions, or reproductions of those type rifles with an exposed hammer; OR single or double-barreled muzzleloading shotguns, with single ball or slug. All muzzleloading primitive firearms must use black powder or a black powder substitute with percussion caps, #209 shotgun primers, or flintlock ignition. "Blackpowder substitute" is defined as a substance designed, manufactured, and specifically intended to be used as a propellant in muzzleloading or other black powder firearms, excluding modern smokeless powder. Metallic cartridges may be loaded with either black powder or modern smokeless powder (cartridges purchased at sporting goods stores). Telescopic sights are allowed while hunting with any primitive firearm during the primitive weapon seasons. During any open season on deer with primitive weapons after November 30, a person may use any legal weapon of choice on private lands only, if the person is the title owner of the land, the lessee of the hunting rights on the land, a member of a hunting club leasing the hunting rights on the land, or a guest of a person specified above. If the person is required to have a hunting license, the person must have a primitive weapon license, Sportsman's License, or a Lifetime Sportsman's License.
So its a Primitive weapon. That stumped me too I had never heard that before.
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Thanks Sam06 .
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No Problem Mr. Perfect
I was confused too, I have never heard of anything like that and with the misspelled words(I am one to talk) I figured the guy didn't know what he was talking about.........Well I ate my crow for the day😉
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Exposed hammer fired single shot, I think but i really don't know. Some of them may have a cartridge limit as well, such as straight wall cartridge etc. So this rifle in 35 Whelen may not make the cut.
My thoughts also
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I am a huge fan of the NEF / H&R / Marlin line of single shot break open exposed hammer heavy barrel profile center fire rifles - the nice ones IMHO are budget priced tack drivers - often with high end high priced optics and laminate stocks...
Heavy bull barrel profile guns with flat muzzle or a recessed target crown - trigger shoe - anti cant spirit level...
One chambered in .35 whelen would absolutely be on my top 10 list...
.22 hornet
.219 zipper
.218 bee
.250-3000 savage
.300 savage
.257 Robert's +P
.35 whelen
.500 S&W
.450 bushmaster
5.7 FN
All of which would be fun guns and all of which would serve a great purpose and cover a wide performance envelope - and would seem to be delightful for hand loaders...
I could also easily list a dozen obsolete pistol cartridges and military rifle cartridges that I would love to have in my collection - whose performance numbers in modern guns using modern bullets and supplied with modern powders would greatly exceed the hopes and expectations of the experts...
Companion guns - with sympathetic common chamberings.
Mike
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@... what do you like, in particular about the .219 zipper??
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I love my bolt rifle in 35 whelen but that cartridge in a single shot short rifle is a real kicker. That is as bad as the 450 marlin I have for sale for a friend. Said its a primitive rifle too.
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I am a huge fan of the NEF / H&R / Marlin line of single shot break open exposed hammer heavy barrel profile center fire rifles - the nice ones IMHO are budget priced tack drivers - often with high end high priced optics and laminate stocks...
Heavy bull barrel profile guns with flat muzzle or a recessed target crown - trigger shoe - anti cant spirit level...
One chambered in .35 whelen would absolutely be on my top 10 list...
.22 hornet
.219 zipper
.218 bee
.250-3000 savage
.300 savage
.257 Robert's +P
.35 whelen
.500 S&W
.450 bushmaster
5.7 FN
All of which would be fun guns and all of which would serve a great purpose and cover a wide performance envelope - and would seem to be delightful for hand loaders...
I could also easily list a dozen obsolete pistol cartridges and military rifle cartridges that I would love to have in my collection - whose performance numbers in modern guns using modern bullets and supplied with modern powders would greatly exceed the hopes and expectations of the experts...
Companion guns - with sympathetic common chamberings.
Mike
It's been so long I don't recall the Model number, but I had an H&R with 22 Hornet and 20 gauge barrels.
Reloaded both the Hornet and 20 gauge for it with Lee hand tools. The hornet barrel wore a steel tube Weaver 3-9 and accounted for more than my share of coyotes and fox.
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Used a 35 whelen for years. Elk, deer, and antelope. Loaded 38/357 cast bullets for small game. 15 gr. of 2400
behind a 358 cast 150 gr bullet shot same point of aim at 50 yds. Should never have sold it.
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@mrmike08075 what do you like, in particular about the .219 zipper??
⊙ the Taurus .219 ragging zipper revolver - preferably scoped or having a holosight mounted on top
⊙ the Marlin model 336 with an octagonal barrel chambered in .219 zipper
⊙ its a .30 wcf case necked down to accept a .224 caliber bullet
⊙ I like small diameter high velocity rimmed lever gun ammo with flat topped hollowpoint projectiles
⊙ the .219 Donaldson wasp improved case architecture variant and the .219 zipper improved sharp shoulder variant from P.O Ackely both showed adaptability a flexibility generated much interest amongst the wildcat names of the day.
P0. 21q
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One of the firearms I am trying to decide if I want to part with, is a NEF Utra rifle in .30-.06. Laminated grey, green, brown stock. Bull barrel with a built in factory muzzle brake. Factory installed picatinny rail. Currently mounted with a Simmons Whitetail Classic 2.5-20X63 AOL scope with a bipod installed. New/unfired.
If you like these, this is a very nice one. I will throw out a heads up when/if offered up.
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"New/unfired."
Ken you haven't even shot it😧
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"New/unfired."
Ken you haven't even shot it😧
I have a few firearms like that. This is one of them. I will be offering up a few never fired firearms to Ricci at some point.
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How long have you had it?
BTW if you sell it pull the scope off and you can sell that separately no ffl needed. I have sold a bunch of them locally and on another place. They don't really add value to the gun unless they are high end scopes.
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It sold, a NR bidder bought it. These rifles are labeled right, they are handy. Ones in 35 Whelen don't come up very often. I have one in .243 and a couple of rifled slug guns.
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just me but I never saw/ had an intrest in single shot, especially for that money, for same or maybe $25 more you could get bolt action, pump or even lever action, any of which you can load one shell in to make it a single shot, or put multibles in for that followup shot..........
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Sam06: 31534513489435/comments/31534556120347
How long have you had it?
BTW if you sell it pull the scope off and you can sell that separately no ffl needed. I have sold a bunch of them locally and on another place. They don't really add value to the gun unless they are high end scopes.
I've had it between 5-6 years.
That's nothing, I have a Winchester 1300 Defender, 12ga. Pump, Black synthetic furniture, parkerized finish about 15 years old - New unfired condition.
As well as a Bennelli Super Nova (same as above.) Both will be going up on auction. I prefer my older wood/blue steel collection of pumps.
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"a Bennelli Super Nova"
I shot my BIL's when I went to visit him in KS. We shot a round of 100 sporting clays
My god that was the worse handling ugliest shotgun I have ever used. I would have rather had a bolt action shotgun.
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Sam06: 31534513489435/comments/31534542389403
"a Bennelli Super Nova"
I shot my BIL's when I went to visit him in KS. We shot a round of 100 sporting clays
My god that was the worse handling ugliest shotgun I have ever used. I would have rather had a bolt action shotgun.
You are absolutely Killing my future Sale brother. 😥
You are supposed to say, "Those are awesome! Cant wait to see it listed." 😉
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I am a huge fan of the old H&R/NEF line. Something about a simple, light single-shot shotgun or rifle always appealed to me. They can kick a good bit, but nothing a soft recoil pad can't tame.
Part of the appeal, I think, is that they were the only thing I could afford in the beginning for hunting. As time has gone on, they are usually not a go-to gun any more...….with the one exception of my 12 ga Ultra Slug Hunter. That thing is such an accurate, soft-shooting (thanks to its enormous weight), and deadly hunting machine. I love it.
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just me but I never saw/ had an intrest in single shot, especially for that money, for same or maybe $25 more you could get bolt action, pump or even lever action, any of which you can load one shell in to make it a single shot, or put multibles in for that followup shot..........
A lot of folks see it the way you do.
For me a break open single shot is the handiest platform for a lot of uses. It's simple, and if you need a follow up shot it loads quick. Being able to load and unload easy is nice for stand hunting, when going through rough terrain, crossing fences or when you get in and out of the truck several times a day.
Then the exposed hammer and transfer bar system is not going to allow the rifle to go off if dropped from a stand. I think it's the safest system for that purpose. Others see letting the hammer down to de-cock it as an issue but i don't. Thumb on hammer release trigger, take finger off of trigger and ease the hammer down.
If you rifle is unloaded and you want to shoot something quick it loads faster than other platforms, say you have the rifle unloaded by the door or behind the truck seat etc. I hunt with different platforms but find uses for a single shot. I've killed a lot of critters with a single shot firearm from small game to deer.
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A lot of folks see it the way you do.
For me a break open single shot is the handiest platform for a lot of uses. It's simple, and if you need a follow up shot it loads quick. Being able to load and unload easy is nice for stand hunting, when going through rough terrain, crossing fences or when you get in and out of the truck several times a day.
Then the exposed hammer and transfer bar system is not going to allow the rifle to go off if dropped from a stand. I think it's the safest system for that purpose. Others see letting the hammer down to de-cock it as an issue but i don't. Thumb on hammer release trigger, take finger off of trigger and ease the hammer down.
If you rifle is unloaded and you want to shoot something quick it loads faster than other platforms, say you have the rifle unloaded by the door or behind the truck seat etc. I hunt with different platforms but find uses for a single shot. I've killed a lot of critters with a single shot firearm from small game to deer.
I agree on both counts. I think the design is about as safe and simple as you can get. Furthermore, I can't think of a single time when I have ever had any trouble/delay reloading for a follow-up. In fact, twice this season I made follow-up shots (to take a second deer) with my Ultra Slug Hunter. Smooth and easy. I don't even remember reloading.
Note: I will say, though, the key to reloading these fast is quick access to your ammo. I find one of those slip-on sleeve holders on the stock to be just the ticket.
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