will iran
start sniping around the edges with smaller stuff or try for a grand slam hit......how do they get the crowds of wailing civilians out en masse,.... withhold rations ?? or are they afraid of not complying like the peasants under north korea tubby ??
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I don't think Trump will send any missles inside Irans border, at least not right away, besides he has plenty of targets outside the country...... 0 -
so how will the liberals and world find fault with TRUMP containing iran terrorists INSIDE of iran's borders ???? step outside get whacked 0 -
Sniping
cost more defense money to combat and Iran will say, " What who us, you must be mistaken ". More car-bombs, single attacks on single places.
Europeans should be aware, it's their people that will suffer ( due to their own alliance on the Middle east for just about everything ), Their liberal government will start to blame the US for not protecting their own interests.
Kinda of going back to NATO, Trump says, "pay your own way, for your own security ".0 -
Cornflk1 wrote:
Kinda of going back to NATO, Trump says, "pay your own way, for your own security ".
Agreed.
There is NO reason why the United States of America should pay a disproportionate amount of money in order to shore up the defense of the European Continent. This alliance was set up in order to counter Cold War conflicts via an invasion by Russia. Those days/times are long gone. Those European Countries that have been getting a free ride from the United States of America, need to step up to the plate, and provide for their own Security. (Or not.)0 -
Iran will continue to operate by proxy, and remain primarily in the realm of gray zone warfare. Their primary concern is regime survival, and they know that anything too overt against the U.S. will Mark the end for the "Supreme Leader."
Look for more shenanigans in the Straits, more Cyber, more militia activity, and terror attempts. They have been sponsoring terror groups for a long time, and will probably start trying to cash in on some favors.
Just my thoughts.....
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Thomas Jefferson: The Pirate War: To The Shores Of Tripoli
Muslim foes. Kidnappings. How the Barbary Wars foreshadowed things to come.
By Christopher Hitchens Monday, July 05, 2004
"Within days of his March 1801 inauguration as the third President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson ordered a naval and military expedition to North Africa, without the authorization of Congress, to put down regimes involved in slavery and piracy. The war was the first in which the U.S. flag was carried and planted overseas; it saw the baptism by fire of the U.S. Marine Corps--whose anthem boasts of action on "the shores of Tripoli"--and it prefigured later struggles with both terrorism and jihad." Time.
The USA has been fighting the muslim criminals/terrorists since 1801. They have been beaten back time after time, yet rebuild and return to create more death and destruction.
HERE IS MORE: To quote:
America Paid Tribute While Preparing for War
Preparation for WAR to Defend Commerce. courtesy New York Public Library Digital Collections
The U.S. government adopted a policy of essentially paying bribes, politely known as tribute, to the pirates. Jefferson objected to the policy of paying tribute in the 1790s. Having been involved in negotiations to free Americans held by North African pirates, he believed paying tribute only invited more problems.
The young U.S. Navy was preparing to deal with the problem by building a few ships destined to fight the pirates off Africa. Work on the frigate Philadelphia was depicted in a painting titled "Preparation for WAR to Defend Commerce."
The Philadelphia was launched in 1800 and saw service in the Caribbean before becoming involved in a pivotal incident in the first war against the Barbary pirates.
1801-1805: The First Barbary War
When Thomas Jefferson became president, he refused to pay any more tribute to the Barbary pirates. And in May 1801, two months after he was inaugurated, the pasha of Tripoli declared war on the United States. The US Congress never issued an official declaration of war in response, but Jefferson dispatched a naval squadron to the coast of North Africa to deal with the pirates.
The American Navy's show of force quickly calmed the situation. Some pirate ships were captured, and the Americans established successful blockades.
But the tide turned against the United States when the frigate Philadelphia ran aground in the harbor of Tripoli (in present day Libya) and the captain and crew were captured.
The capture of the Philadelphia was a victory for the pirates, but the triumph was short-lived.
In February 1804, Lieutenant Stephen Decatur of the U.S. Navy, sailing a captured ship, managed to sail into the harbor at Tripoli and recapture the Philadelphia. He burned the ship so it couldn't be used by the pirates. The daring action became a naval legend.
Stephen Decatur became a national hero in the United States and he was promoted to captain.
The captain of the Philadelphia, who was eventually released, was William Bainbridge. He later went on to greatness in the U.S. Navy. Coincidentally, one of the U.S. Navy ships involved in action against pirates off Africa in April 2009 was the USS Bainbridge, which was named in his honor.
To the Shores of Tripoli
In April 1805 the U.S. Navy, with U.S. Marines, launched an operation against the port of Tripoli. The objective was to install a new ruler.
The detachment of Marines, under the command of Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon, led a frontal assault on a harbor fort at the Battle of Derna. O'Bannon and his small force captured the fort.
Marking the first American victory on foreign soil, O'Bannon raised an American flag over the fortress. The mention of the "shores of Tripoli" in the "Marine's Hymn" refers to this triumph.
A new pasha was installed in Tripoli, and he presented O'Bannon with a curved "Mameluke" sword, which is named for North African warriors. To this day Marine dress swords replicate the sword given to O'Bannon.
A Treaty Ended the First Barbary War
After the American victory at Tripoli, a treaty was arranged which, while not entirely satisfactory for the United States, effectively ended the First Barbary War.
One problem which delayed ratification of the treaty by the U.S. Senate was that ransom had to be paid to free some American prisoners. But the treaty was eventually signed, and when Jefferson reported to the Congress in 1806, in the written equivalent of the president's State of the Union Address, he said the Barbary States would now respect American commerce.
The issue of piracy off Africa faded into the background for about a decade. Problems with Britain interfering with American commerce took precedence, and eventually led to the War of 1812.
1815: The Second Barbary War
During the War of 1812 American merchant ships were kept out of the Mediterranean by Britain's Royal Navy. But problems arose again with the war's end in 1815.
Feeling that the Americans had been seriously weakened, a leader with the title of the Dey of Algiers declared war on the United States. The U.S. Navy responded with a fleet of ten ships, which were commanded by Stephen Decatur and William Bainbridge, both veterans of the earlier Barbary war.
By July 1815 Decatur's ships had captured several Algerian ships and forced the Dey of Algiers to commit to a treaty. Pirate attacks on American merchant ships were effectively ended at that point.
Legacy of the Wars Against the Barbary Pirates
The threat of the Barbary pirates faded into history, especially as the age of imperialism meant the African states supporting piracy came under the control of European powers. And pirates were mainly found in adventure tales until incidents off the coast of Somalia made headlines in the spring of 2009.
The Barbary Wars were relatively minor engagements, especially when compared to European wars of the period. Yet they provided heroes and thrilling tales of patriotism to the United States as a young nation. And the fights in distant lands can be said to have shaped the young nation's conception of itself as a player on the international stage.
Gratitude is extended to the New York Public Library Digital Collections for the use of images on this page.
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This has been going on for over 200 years and will continue until they are eliminated totally and completely. To believe otherwise, is total foolishness.0 -
A sound bite is needed. The left is already all over it saying we don't want war.
Why not:
Quassem Soleimani ordered the hit on our embassy!
Or,
Please do not order hits on our embassies!
or,
Can we let generals order hits on our embassies?0 -
Well, if you guys will pay a close relative of mine, (my Son........) $50,000 a month to sit on a Board of Directors, he is not anywhere near qualified to sit on - I might be inclined to forget the whole thing.
If you Fire the Head Prosecutor in charge of the whole Investigation. I will then release $1 Billion in Aid to your Country.
"Quid Pro Quo?" Nah, ........................................................................................No way. :roll:
What a bunch of Total BS.
We are looking at the wrong Administration, for corruption, and "Quid Pro Quo." Any intelligent person can clearly see that, if you bother to look. Hillary, giving access to Secretary of State. Just deposit a million or two into the Clinton Fund. No, nothing to see here. What a crock of Sheeit.
What? Oh my $18 Million dollar Mansion on the shore of the Ocean, although I have only been a "Community Organizer," up until now? Oh, I saved $2 million dollars/year to buy that.
No,...................................................Nothing to See Here. :roll:0
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