Sales tax to be collected on 36 states soon
A useful gunbroker.com email. Sellers, remember to be collecting the sales tax on your sales, you will be paying it regardless of whether you collect it or not.
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For you private sellers that aren't sure how to handle this with your sales, Don't worry, it's real easy. Just collect the total due on your "view order" page and the rest happens automatically.
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Yep, the instructions at the bottom of the list you posted seem pretty cut and dried. I'm sure this will create great angst among many occasional sellers though, but I don't see why. Thanks for posting.
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Ahh yes, all states will be on the tax wagon soon enough. Some how I don't feel to warm and fuzzy about it though.
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When at the gun shows, we always used to tell people: "We don't charge sales tax. We collect it."
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Horse Plains Drifter: 31515900198811/comments/31515912664475
Yep, the instructions at the bottom of the list you posted seem pretty cut and dried. I'm sure this will create great angst among many occasional sellers though, but I don't see why. Thanks for posting.
I was mostly posting to raise awareness so that they remember to charge for it as I have a prediction for you, since you are a mod now you can start preparing for it haha.
In Early April there will be a run on these forms of people that didn't know about it, didn't charge for it and will be coming here to whine about it. My guess is the first ones will show up about April 5th.
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shootuadeal: 31515900198811/comments/31515897116059
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11259493#Comment_11259493
I was mostly posting to raise awareness so that they remember to charge for it as I have a prediction for you, since you are a mod now you can start preparing for it haha.
In Early April there will be a run on these forms of people that didn't know about it, didn't charge for it and will be coming here to whine about it. My guess is the first ones will show up about April 5th.
Sellers don't need to charge for it, GB does it automatically in the invoice. As a seller, if the buyer doesn't include it in the payment, I won't ship the product. Sellers will be charged for it whether the buyer pays it or not.
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Paid like 9.75% my last couple buys. Tennessee does not collect income tax. It is tax on purchases.
Ouch.
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toad67: 31515900198811/comments/31515900486555
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11259507#Comment_11259507
Sellers don't need to charge for it, GB does it automatically in the invoice. As a seller, if the buyer doesn't include it in the payment, I won't ship the product. Sellers will be charged for it whether the buyer pays it or not.
Yes, But you know what you are doing. Many of the new people lately on here don't know how it all works and will tell the buyer to send payment for the item and whatever for shipping without even looking at the "order page". They won't notice until later that GB took the taxes off their credit card as well as the selling fees.
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If I sell a gun or a tool to my neighbor there is no sales tax, it is a private sale. Why should private sales between individuals be taxed. I understand cars and some other equipment is subject to sales tax even when used but normal everyday untitled items are not taxed. I even can see transfer fees being taxed but not the item. The FFL is a business so we pay taxes.
What is the difference now? Sales tax was collected when the item was a new retail purchase. Why tax a set of reloading dies, gun rug, used reloading brass or whatnot again?
I miss a lot in this life but this seems to be "unfair".
Oh, wait, sorry, life ain't fair, the only things certain in life are death and taxes. Taxes are out of control, and a huge burden upon "WE THE PEOPLE".
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Solution: contact seller for payment. No GB checkout.
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bpost: 31515900198811/comments/31515900598427
If I sell a gun or a tool to my neighbor there is no sales tax, it is a private sale. Why should private sales between individuals be taxed. I understand cars and some other equipment is subject to sales tax even when used but normal everyday untitled items are not taxed. I even can see transfer fees being taxed but not the item. The FFL is a business so we pay taxes.
What is the difference now? Sales tax was collected when the item was a new retail purchase. Why tax a set of reloading dies, gun rug, used reloading brass or whatnot again?
I miss a lot in this life but this seems to be "unfair".
Oh, wait, sorry, life ain't fair, the only things certain in life are death and taxes. Taxes are out of control, and a huge burden upon "WE THE PEOPLE".
Thats the problem with paypal on Ebay. They use the blanket approach and tax everything. My state does not tax sales between private parties.
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The powers that be have been trying to tax garage sales in Michigan for years.
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chiefr: 31515900198811/comments/31515929836827
Solution: contact seller for payment. No GB checkout.
It doesn't work that way. Sellers are charged the final value fee, plus any sales tax due, depending on where the buyer lives. The instant checkout just allows some buyers to use a credit card to pay on line, taxes are still paid by the seller even if you pay them directly with a check or money order. No payments go thru gunbroker directly.
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chiefr: 31515900198811/comments/31515929836827
Solution: contact seller for payment. No GB checkout.
This is why I posted, to get everyone on the same page. Just like Toad said above, it is not optional. The seller WILL BE CHARGED SALES TAX WHETHER OR NOT HE CHARGES THE BUYER FOR IT OR NOT! The taxes owed will be taken out of his chosen method of payment just the same as his seller fees.
Many sellers will not even be aware of this until they notice on their credit card statement that there was an extra $35 or whatever taken from gunbroker on their $500 item IN ADDITION TO SELLING FEES. That is why I make the prediction of them coming here to complain, should start about early April haha.
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dunbarboyz: 31515900198811/comments/31515930082075
The powers that be have been trying to tax garage sales in Michigan for years.
Now that is a real stupid idea
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select-fire: 31515900198811/comments/31515913717403
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11259543#Comment_11259543
Now that is a real stupid idea
Not really, it is Michigan after all. Well actually, stupid and Michigan do go had in hand so I may be a bit off kilter.
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yep old flea bay its automatic you buy it you pay taxes on the invoice added by them
think of the billions of dollars windfall states are getting to help the needy the government has been drooling for years over internet sales to get there fingers' in the pot one of the perks for a long time no tax . some one posted a few weeks ago no matter if your just a individual if you sell your business now . pay up and shut up
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Local FFL's will get more business.
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bpost: 31515900198811/comments/31515900598427
If I sell a gun or a tool to my neighbor there is no sales tax, it is a private sale. Why should private sales between individuals be taxed. I understand cars and some other equipment is subject to sales tax even when used but normal everyday untitled items are not taxed. I even can see transfer fees being taxed but not the item. The FFL is a business so we pay taxes.
What is the difference now? Sales tax was collected when the item was a new retail purchase. Why tax a set of reloading dies, gun rug, used reloading brass or whatnot again?
I miss a lot in this life but this seems to be "unfair".
Oh, wait, sorry, life ain't fair, the only things certain in life are death and taxes. Taxes are out of control, and a huge burden upon "WE THE PEOPLE".
BPost has made an important point:
Private sales between individuals should be exempt providing states have such laws. If not so GB is wrong.
Sellers should be able to ID as private individual's and GB should be aware of each state law regarding private sales if such
are tax free or they donating to state governments rather than paying taxes.
Many sellers on GB are private individuals who are collectors and not incorporated, not LLC, or Sole Proprietors .
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Right now, Gunbroker collects and remits sales tax on sales to a handful of states. I collect and remit sales tax on my Texas sales. Soon Gunbroker will be collecting tax for more states, including Texas. I currently have an account with the State Comptroller and I pay my taxes quarterly.
How often will Gunbroker settle up? Do they have or do they need my account number, so I get proper credit? Will I have to keep my non-Gunbroker sales separate from my Gunbroker sales?
This is all confusing.
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So what if you are an FFL/gunshop and are purchasing for resale?
I do purchase items for resale in my business and have a resale cert from my home state.
Will resale certificates be honored?
Just for clarification I am not in the gun business
Just tossing this out
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@...: 31515900198811/comments/31515881597979
Paid like 9.75% my last couple buys. Tennessee does not collect income tax. It is tax on purchases.
Ouch.
That's about what sales tax is here in Arizona (city, state combo) and we have income tax too.
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I'm a private collector, like most of y'all. This new sale "TAX" on GB is a game changer for most "BUYERS". New Colt Talo guns are going over 5/6K. What will be the average sale tax on these type of auctions??? Anywhere from$250/500??....there goes my Ammo money!!!!
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Hi guys I’m new to the forum and am still unclear on tax collecting. I sold several items today and need some help.
it appears that GunBroker automatically prints out and invoice with the selling price as well as my flat rate shipping price, and total. I do not see any tax added or how I would go about adding the tax.
Does gun broker automatically send an invoice to the buyer, or do I need to do something to send it to the buyer?
if I don’t collect the tax I am concerned I will be eating all of these tax bills at the end of the month.
I have read all of the notes and emails but still not clear.
Would one of you help be with this concern? I would be most grateful.
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Philc: 31515900198811/comments/31515931514395
Hi guys I’m new to the forum and am still unclear on tax collecting. I sold several items today and need some help.
it appears that GunBroker automatically prints out and invoice with the selling price as well as my flat rate shipping price, and total. I do not see any tax added or how I would go about adding the tax.
Does gun broker automatically send an invoice to the buyer, or do I need to do something to send it to the buyer?
if I don’t collect the tax I am concerned I will be eating all of these tax bills at the end of the month.
I have read all of the notes and emails but still not clear.
Would one of you help be with this concern? I would be most grateful.
Currently only 8 states are required to have the tax collected on. Those 8 states are highlighted in my original post. If the buyers of your auctions are from the states other than the ones highlighted in red you are good to go.
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DEEREHART: 31515900198811/comments/31515888311579
So what if you are an FFL/gunshop and are purchasing for resale?
I do purchase items for resale in my business and have a resale cert from my home state.
Will resale certificates be honored?
Just for clarification I am not in the gun business
Just tossing this out
I sent a ticket into support to see if there is a resale provision. I occasionally will buy an item I think is going way cheap to resale so I am interested to know if it is possible.
I will report back if I get an answer.
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Thanks for your fast response shootuadeal. That explains why no tax added to Invoice as no sales to any of those 8 states.
Can you tell me if I need to do something to send the invoice out or if it goes out automatically? Possibly it is prompted by something the buyer needs to do?
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Philc: 31515900198811/comments/31515902291995
Thanks for your fast response shootuadeal. That explains why no tax added to Invoice as no sales to any of those 8 states.
Can you tell me if I need to do something to send the invoice out or if it goes out automatically? Possibly it is prompted by something the buyer needs to do?
The buyer has access to the "order" same as you. Many buyers, especially new ones are lost and never see it so It is good form to send an email to the buyer stating the total due, where to send payment, how you want to receive the FFL, etc.
Gunbroker.com flows it nicely if they go through the checkout process but like I said, most don't go through it properly. There's many ways to transact things on here. Like I said, I recommend an email to the buyer explaining how you want payment and FFL, it should be easy after that.
If you have any other questions or anything just ask or send me a message and I'll do my best to answer.
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Thank you. I greatly appreciate your help and time spent answering my questions.
Best Regards,
Phil
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I got an answer to the buying for resale question...
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