AED
Who has one at home? Thinking about getting one.
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One lives in the back seat of my truck.
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I give up what is an AED?
Automated external defibrillators???
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About 2 years ago, I purchased several for our offices. Frankly, they impressed the hell out of me. Open the case, it starts talking to you, telling you what to do- and the screen has pictures. If the patient does not need a shock, you cannot make it deliver a shock. The price has come WAY down- and there are factory refurbished units available for fairly cheap prices. Think we paid about $600 each.
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I do not. Hope this helps.
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The other day when I was finished at the dentist I noticed they had one on the wall next to the counter you pay the bill at.
I assumed it was there for when someone sees the dental bill and keels over and has a heart attack it is in a handy location.
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I administered a shock to a shooter at a match last summer.
Amazingly- the range had the AED in place for less than 24hrs before I had to use it.
The guy made it.
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I had never met Pete.
This morning I was at a match- same as usual, I was working my squad as the RO and had not shot yet.
An emergency Cease fire was declared with a shooter down.
2 stages over a man named “Pete“ had suffered a massive heart attack.
When I arrived there was no pulse, no breathing.
We organized- calling and flagging for help & got to work with CPR.
This range is in the middle of nowhere.
To my absolute surprise an AED showed up.
I later learned the AED was purchased by the club and placed there YESTERDAY.
I put it on Pete and the machine advised a shock.
We hit him with the AED.
A pulse.
faint breathing.
At 72 years old Pete wasn’t done yet.
We tended to him 18 minutes until EMT’s arrived.
I didnt know what else to do so I cleaned up & shot the match.
Stage 4 we got the call Pete had made it. He was in the hospital and stable- they were running tests.
Driving home it all hit me. The AED wasn’t in place for 24 hours. Amazing.
Here are a few texts between my shooting buddies- 1 was there the others were not. My texts are in Blue.
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Very rusty- weird day, but held my own at the match. On this stage, you had to shoot through 5 windows
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AEDs are cost effective enough that they are showing up in diverse public settings . They are almost idiot proof . Along with CPR they are literally lifesavers
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Learn CPR first. It is always with you and works. No batteries. No maintance. If you have not learned CPR yet, you will not be ready to use AED when necessary. Rescue squad will have AED. How far away are they? Remember you have about 6 minutes before brain damage with sudden cardiac arrest with out CPR or restarting heart with AED.
Sept 2019 a 71 year old great-grandmother with artificial knee performed CPR on me for 10-15 minutes before rescue squad arrived. I carry my own AED and it is surgically implanted. Internal Cardiac Difibulator (ICD)
Every time I renew my CPR class, we also talk about AEDs - We have these in our office and building. I was listening the radio the other day and they were talking about these. 4-5 hundred for one is not that bad. Might save someone's life!
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"nutfinn"
Not sure about the rules and the best way, but I would like to contribute to your purchase of an AED. I am alive today due to CPR training. Time to pay it forward.
Awesome, my thing is, AED would be like an insurance. Never probably need it, but man would it be handy to have if needed!
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"Better to have it and not need it...Than need it and not have it...😁
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Exactly
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"Better to have it and not need it...Than need it and not have it...😁
Just like 4x4 in a pick up truck!
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Just like 4x4 in a pick up truck!
I was thinking...like a weapon...😉
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If you do a good search on CPR the chest compression part is on the way out, too many broken ribs.
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More logic, very few people get shot by a CCW. Same logic for the broken rib part.
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I sold a lot of AED's back in the 1990's they were fool proof then but cost $3,000 or more. Shocking a person was impossible if there was a flat line, zero heart beat, at the time. I am sure AED's have improved since then and for 500 bucks I would like to get one for my vehicle.
One never knows when a cardiac event will happen. We have dual organs in many places but the pumping of blood keeps all the others running.
AED's are great, cardiac arrest not so much.
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AED - A must, got to get one!
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If you do a good search on CPR the chest compression part is on the way out, too many broken ribs.
With that logic,Concealed carry should be on the way out because too many people get shot.
As a survivor of sudden cardiac arrest, I have done a massive searches on the subject. Admittly CPR has only about a 3% chance of success. Yes I experenced damage to my sterum that still hurts 1 1/2 years later. Without CPR you have only about 6 minutes to find and use AED.
Chest compressions and alternatively rescue breaths have been variously excluded from inferior trainings such as what is proffered by the red cross on the presumption that the general IQ of the public is below 70. They're not wholly wrong. The collective IQ of the general populace is probably even lower than that. However, those folks aren't likely administering CPR even if they have training.
Good courses such as those done for first responders and that which is taught by the AHA have always included chest compressions and rescue breaths and always will because it gives the greatest odds. If I had any say over it, they'd skip right past chest compressions and move to the much more effective precordial thump as it shows even greater efficacy.
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I think that now the American Heart Assoc recommends compressions only; mouth-to-mouth may be used with infants, children, & adults who have been down for an unknown length of time. (With covid-19 widespread, I doubt anyone is doing mouth-to-mouth now.) I turned in my EMT card to my volunteer fire company 17 years ago. It's been even longer since I was a Cardiac Rescue Technician.
For those of you who carry an AED in a vehicle, do you just charge it in the house on a regular basis? I don't see any that will charge on 12 volts.
Neal
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The units that we purchased for our labs have an internal battery that does not require an external power source, and was good for (IIRC) 4 years. Then you send it back to maker for service.
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Same with mine. No recharge.
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With all the lawyers we have in our country I wonder how long it will be before someone is sued when things don't go well. Sorry Earl!
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Sue away. Every state I have seen has a "Good Samaritan" law. Unless I am a paid medical professional, if I have been trained in 1st aid and offer assistance in an emergency, you can go pound sand. AED makers- like the makers of ANY medical equipment, pay thru the nose for product liability insurance.
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