FFL Gunsmithing Record Question
It's my understanding that a gun being worked on can be dropped off and picked up by the same person with no need for a 4473..
I also understand that the gun must be entered in a bound book reserved for gunsmithing jobs, and that no 4473 or NICS check is required on pickup.
Am I right?
I am not a smith, but I have repaired/cleaned a few guns, using the "while you wait" exception to the bound book, so I have never set aside a separate bound book for repair jobs.
Must I have a separate book, or can I included the entry in my regular book? If I make the entry in my regular book, must I have the customer complete a 4473 when he picks it up?
I expect to receive the gun tomorrow, and I expect to have it in my shop for a couple of weeks, since I will have to order parts once I find out what all it needs.
I know I am not the first FFL to face this issue, so...how did you handle it?
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You are correct. Provided the firearm is returned to the person from whom it was received, there is no need for a 4473. [27 CFR 478.124(a) and 478.147]
Although it is not required, I would suggest maintaining a separate bound book. It would make things easier. Your call.
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I don't know if it varies by state, but when I was doing smith work, (closed my business in 2011), the dorks from our ATF branch said that I had to log anything in that was in my possession overnight.
Quicky jobs like scope mounting, and the like got a pass. Everything else went on my books.
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you should have a separate 'book' for gunsmithing jobs (k.i.s.s.), I did this for 40 years and never had a problem. if you want one of these send me your addy and I'll send one out.
just to note; if someone 'else' picks the gun up (son brings it in, dad picks it up ect.) that person has to fill out the 4473
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My understanding is if left in your possesion overnight it must be entered in the books . As long as the customer stays on premises and does not leave no need to enter it . No 4473 required if left and retrieved by same person .
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MIKE WISKEY: 31154665374491/comments/31154672164891
you should have a separate 'book' for gunsmithing jobs (k.i.s.s.), I did this for 40 years and never had a problem. if you want one of these send me your addy and I'll send one out.
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just to note; if someone 'else' picks the gun up (son brings it in, dad picks it up ect.) that person has to fill out the 4473
Sure! Thanks! Slide one on out here.
Nunn's
8550 State Highway 34 N
Wolfe City, TX 75496
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Got it!
THANKS!!!
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you are more than welcome
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you can always tag it as a personal item . you can work on your personal firearms in your shop. when i first started my ffl in my house, that is what i was required to do
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I have cleaned a few, and have replaced a part or two, but until now, I've not had to keep a client's gun for any length of time. Fix it, clean it, hand it back. No record keeping required.
I had to order parts for this one and wait. I still have it, but parts have been shipped.
Thanks!
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As I read the comments and issues with just having a firearm in YOUR shop to inspect and or repair how insane have the "laws" become?
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