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  • select-fire
    mogley98: 30631994113179/comments/

    Having worked on an actual film set as an armorer (All for Liberty) I can tell you when an actor is handed a firearm and told it is cold he fully assumes it is. Sort of like a kid in boot camp being handed a grenade and told it is cold to toss it. We will just have to disagree on this, but I find regardless of personal preferences for Baldwin he isn't guilty of anything. The armorer is fully responsible and the assistant director who handled the gun with or without the Armorers OK is also guilty.

    My .02 won't change.

    Made someone mad...disagree

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  • Rocky Raab

    I agree.

    I've never been on a movie set, but I have two decades worth of media news and studio sets experience (as a media spokesman). There, the hierarchy is very rigid. Nobody but you can even touch your job, and no matter what happens, the "star" is never at fault. Union rules control everything.

    Example: if a cameraman needs to change position to a new angle, but there's a mic cable on the floor in the way, the cameraman MUST call an electrician to move that cable, even a few inches. If he were to simply move it aside with his foot, there'd be hell to pay, all work would stop, and a grievance filed.

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  • shootuadeal
    mogley98: 30631994113179/comments/

    Having worked on an actual film set as an armorer (All for Liberty) I can tell you when an actor is handed a firearm and told it is cold he fully assumes it is. Sort of like a kid in boot camp being handed a grenade and told it is cold to toss it. We will just have to disagree on this, but I find regardless of personal preferences for Baldwin he isn't guilty of anything. The armorer is fully responsible and the assistant director who handled the gun with or without the Armorers OK is also guilty.

    My .02 won't change.

    As someone who has also worked on set as an armorer I agree completely. I know we will rack up the anonymous "disagrees" but some people on here act like the actor was out deer hunting with his family instead of on a studio set. There are different rules for gun handling.

    Over the 3 days of being on set for the gun/shooting scenes I don't think a single actor even looked at the rounds being loaded, mostly because myself, the stunt coordinator and 1st AD had them all ready. Think there was roughly 300rds expended in those three days. The main character was a Broadway actress from NYC, she had never fired a gun before, we had to get her to look convincing even holding it, I bet if she had shot someone knowing her backstory everyone would be calling for my head instead of hers.

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  • jimdeere

    I’m pretty sure the law books don’t mention the terms “armorer” “assistant director” “prop gun”, etc.

    More like “accused” “victim “ “perpetrator “ “accomplice “…

    No, I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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  • chme

    I have to agree with the folks that have been armorers for movie production.

    For a crime to take place, you must have 2 elements- that act, and the INTENT to perform that act. Going to be very hard to show that Baldwin intended to shoot anyone when weapons were to be under control of a licensed armorer.

    From what I have gathered, the armorer had been undercut by the asst. director. OTOH, I am 2500 miles away, not an attorney, and did not stay at a Holliday Inn last night.

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  • fatcat458

    l respectfully disagree. lf anyone puts any type tool (gun-wrench-flashlight) l 'm gohing to check it out before l try and use

    it. lf l dont know how to use this item or tool l am going to find someone or information on how to use it. To quote Mr Ripley.

    'Believe it or not' - l read the owners manual on items i purchase. lf l hurt you or anyone else with a tool or itim l'm using,

    IT'S MY FAULT😲

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