Are Lifeboats Obsolete Now ???
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Precision-guided bombs are hardly new, and the technique of breaking a ship's spine by exploding something below the keel has been used since WW Deuce. The only "new" aspect is doing it from the air instead of by torpedo or mine. The bomb deliberately misses hitting the ship itself, hitting short so as to pass under it with a delayed fuse.
A warship might not break in half quite as easily as that cargo ship, either.
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Looks like a nice addition to the arsenal to me. I had a different opinion after watching the video. no research, just my SWAG.
This bomb hits beside the target(not delayed to drift under) and seems to not only break the hull open but also creates massive aire disruption under the water. The mass of air is what makes the ship sink SO fast. There are natural phenomena that cause ships to sink from the gas bubbles(can't remember where or what type gas). But the gas release was so much that fully intact ships can lose bouyancy and sink.
So I would agree, life boats would be obsolete in most cases, 2 or more may be required for the larger ships, but they also need more bouyancy....so who knows?
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We saw and are saying the same thing, m55. Except that "drift under" is not at all what happens. The bomb hits at near supersonic speed, and the fuse delay is in milliseconds.
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It's amazing what air under a ship can do. Seems the engineers have incorporated that into a device that also breaches the hull. Hopefully it works that good if ever needed. Praying we won't need em(or any others), but it sure ain't looking good.
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Wow
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What happens with any large explosion under a hull is that the initial "shock wave" of expanding gas lifts the ship off the surface, breaking its spine or breaking it fully in half. Then the ship falls back into the temporary crater in the water left by the explosion, only to be inundated by the water rushing back in a fraction of a second later. It's a 1-2-3 punch few if any ships can survive.
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I feel sorry for the fish that were harmed.
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That ship went down faster than Kammy on a big donor! Whew, not a chance for any survival on a merchant ship.
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Sam06: 30472195752347/comments/30472196480155
I feel sorry for the fish that were harmed.
I never thought about it before, but I'm with you. And I want to be fish-hugger.😉
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Fish were simply saved from the Chinese "fishing" vessels. They would died a more gruesome death.😁
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Another view, just look at all the free meals for passing by predator fish.
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Zounds Batman! The magnitude of that explosion makes me think no one would survive to get to a life boat.
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I fish those waters, new reefs are welcome.......😀
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The ship I was on had nuclear tipped ASROC missiles. A shot from one of those you would not even see the ship after the hit.
Here is an example.
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The article I read with the video made it sound like a major breakthrough but as has been mentioned it's all old tech.
Sounded to me the Air Force was trying to make sure the sub folks know that they aren't the only ship sinkers around.
But how many ships would be in range of an Air Force strike? If the AF can do it can't carrier aircraft do it?
Why did they do it with a F-15 instead of a F-35 Wonderjet?
Here's the hyped version I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmfRi2Vl3JQ0 -
WT, you need to get with the program. The F-15 Strike Eagle is the current "Wonderjet". Somebody remembered that Hitler demanded the ME-262 be used as a bomber and strapped bombs to the best fighter plane they had. So now the genius squad at the Pentagon is doing the same thing with the F-15. Use the F-35 advanced attack jet to actually attack something? Ludicrous. Instead, complain that it isn't as good in air-to-air flying as the F-15. When the F-15 isn't carrying bombs.
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F-15 is battle proven and CHEAP, well cheap compared to the F-35. Plus, we have LOTS of left over F-15s with nothing to use em for.
And EVERYBODY knows the govt knows best and is looking to SAVE our tax dollars!(deep green font!)
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No, they have ordered a bunch of new F15's from what I read.
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Yup, it is for all practical purposes a totally different airplane. Strike Eagle is a high-tech bomb truck, two-man crew, and tech wizardry out the wazoo.
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Dang, hit that big green thing by accident again.
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The F-22 is still the bad boy.
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War ships, aircraft carriers, cargo ships, tankers, lifeboats, rubber ducks and intertubes are all obsolete. Anything that floats ain't gotta life span of over 15 minutes in an all out real war. Drones like the Ultra Leap are capable of staying aloft for days and can fly long distances and land and take off remotely. They can arm drones with nuclear missiles that'll make those bombs in the video look like lady finger firecrackers. They can put those things in the air like buzzards just waiting on any target to come by.
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Smitty, a loitering drone is very much a sitting duck, also. Nothing within 300 miles of a carrier is "unseen" these days.
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Rocky Raab: 30472195752347/comments/30472211668891
Smitty, a loitering drone is very much a sitting duck, also. Nothing within 300 miles of a carrier is "unseen" these days.
I guess that'll give them enough time to say their prayers when they see that nuc coming at them at about 5,000 mph that they can't shoot down.
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Smitty, you are clearly a "glass half empty" guy.
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Rocky Raab: 30472195752347/comments/30472237818395
Smitty, you are clearly a "glass half empty" guy.
Thanks Rocky. I appreciate the compliment. I don't get'em very often these days. 😊
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LOL! You and I would get along quite nicely, good sir.
But seriously, my many Navy friends tell me that - while nothing is unsinkable - enemies would have a helluva time trying to penetrate the many layers of detection and destruction surrounding a carrier battle group. "Shoot the shooter" is their plan.
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