In my new place and I have a question - Update
So the new place came with a gas stove. It's hooked up to propane. It's been a while since I've used a propane stove so I don't recall exactly, but it sure seems like this one has mega heat output. It seems possible this stove was and still is configured for natural gas. Is there a way to tell by looking at the nozzles on it?
So, I went through and did the conversion. Thanks all for your input on this. I was careful not to drop orifices into the nethers of the unit, though one did slip by it only went one level in and I was able to get to it without much ado. That said, the whole process was not fun. I think I ended up about 2.5 hours into that all said and done (and that with my lovely and very helpful and patient wife's assistance).
At any rate, the stove is operating properly now, thank goodness. The funny thing is, the main burner actually runs a bit hotter since it's burning more efficiently now (haven't really tried the other ones much other than to check operation). And there is now only a nice glow in the oven instead of huge visible flames. Happy to have this ordeal behind me.
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A propane orifice in the regulator will be larger.
https://www.hunker.com/12616869/a-propane-orifice-vs-a-gas-orifice
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Yes well, larger than ... ??? I need to get my calipers out and measure orifice diameter?
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Didn't go to the link, but that seems bassackward to me. When I set up my gas outdoor campfire, it came with hose and fittings for propane. The instructions said if it was to be used with natural gas, to drill out the orifice to make it larger.
So.. if Mr P's stove was originally designed for natural gas, but is running propane, the OEM jets will be too large and will run super hot. That's what he's seeing.
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IF the flame is nice and blue with VERY little yellow it is set up properly, wrong orifices will give a 'dirty' yellow flame and make your pots/pans black on the bottom
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what MW said. maybe your pressure regulator is a little high.
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If you have the wrong orifice in it.......you will KNOW! Nat gas orifice with propane will make a huge uncontrollable and unusable flame.
If you can light it and turn it up and down without it going a foot high and a foot wide, then you are all good!
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The orifice should have either a number or dot of paint to determine the size. The hole size will be very small & wire drills would be needed. Check an owners manual for orifice sizes & the regulator setting (which could just be a switch.)
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The power company use to inspect and advise you, as a free service. I would start there. If the power company won't do it, check with your propane supplier. Please get it checked out to make darn sure. That aint something to guess about. Hope this helps. Congrats on new place, best wishes. @Mr. Perfect
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As mentioned, propane has BIGGER orifice than NG so would put out LESS heat if not replaced.
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Mobuck: 30466261479195/comments/30466277783195
As mentioned, propane has BIGGER orifice than NG so would put out LESS heat if not replaced.
Ya got that backwards! LP(propane) has a SMALLER orifice than Natural Gas.
If you put the larger natural gas orifice in and used LP gas........IT WILL BE OBVIOUS that something is wrong. The flame will be HUGE. It will be so obvious that you would immediately turn it off and go WTF!
If yours is controllable(and nice blue), then its probably corect.
Can you turn it on and go from low to high with the knob? If so, the correct LP orifice is installed. If it were nat gas orifice then it would just be a huge uncontrollable ball of fire, prob the size of a basketball.
Even with the correct LP orifices, there are diff BTU burners on modern stoves. Mine has 4 diff heat range burners.
Just sayin'
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Ok gents thank you for your inputs! This morning I happened upon the user manual. Thankfully, the previous owner left it!! The manual said to look behind the unit for a nozzle pack for the LP conversion. So, I pulled the unit out and low and behold there was the pack unopened. There was another envelope that had a place for the installer to sign off on the LP conversion. That was unsigned-off. But just to be sure, I opened up the pack of nozzles. @Toolman286 , you are exactly right. The nozzles have small identifiers on them- color coded and have the orifice size noted. Also... folks the orifices for natural gas are larger than for propane. There is more heat energy in propane so you have to use a lower flow rate.
This stove was never converted. Yes the flames are quite large, but they are definitely controllable. My wife had run the oven and remarked how large the flame was in there. Yikes, could have caused a real problem!! Whoever installed this was a complete ass.
I am going to have to get these switched out. One more thing on the long list of SHIT to do!
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@Mr. Perfect Be careful when changing the orifices / jets. They like to fall out of the socket & disappear down into the unit. There will probably be a change to the regulator setting &/or near the burner knob. I had a similar problem with an idiot installer & had to redo the KitchenAid cooktop. (He also put the wrong jet in the gas dryer.) One burner that we use a lot wouldn't go low enough so I bought extra jets from amazon (10 for the price of 1 OEM.) They were pre-drilled small so I opened one up with a wire drill, leaving it a few thousands smaller then the original. It flickers while lighting but gives the lower heat setting we wanted. Al
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You have instructions, so your good to go now! You will have to swap the spring in the regulator too, usually just remove, turn over, and reinstall. Instructions should cover it tho.
Glad you figured it out. Burns way too much fuel and is dangerous the way it was!
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My 2 cents, get the gas company to come out and check everything out.
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There is no gas company. It's hooked to a privately owned propane tank.
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What about that HOA... Have those folks take a look at it.
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Some one fills that tank unless you would haul it to a filling station.
The supplier should have service men.
Joke
Fellow was falling out of the sky fumbling with his parachute, passes a man going up and asks him if he knows anything about a parachute. Reply, "nope" but do you kinow anything about a gas stove?
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It's a portable tank. I may have someone come fill it, but I doubt it.
And the HOA has nothing to do with this. Not sure why that would even be brought up.
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Mr. Perfect: 30466261479195/comments/30466258179611
It's a portable tank. I may have someone come fill it, but I doubt it.
And the HOA has nothing to do with this. Not sure why that would even be brought up.
Figured they might have some kind of rule of what can and cannot be used... maybe no outside propane tanks.
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@Mr. Perfect I believe you have it all under control now. Just get the right orifices installed(including stove and boiler) and the valve swapped to LP.
I wouldnt leave where an HOA is, but if you do......I wouldnt call them! LOL. Be like calling the govt to make sure everyhting was ok.
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If you have the wrong orifice in it.......you will KNOW! Nat gas orifice with propane will make a huge uncontrollable and unusable flame.
What Mike said. , Appliance center set up my new stove some years back with wrong orifice, i mean to tell you it was a mess and outright dangerous.
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mike55: 30466261479195/comments/30466279200155
@Mr. Perfect I believe you have it all under control now. Just get the right orifices installed(including stove and boiler) and the valve swapped to LP.
I wouldnt leave where an HOA is, but if you do......I wouldnt call them! LOL. Be like calling the govt to make sure everyhting was ok.
Yeah, this HOA has very few regulations. About the only one is "no commercial cattle farms".
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Sounds like a decent HOA then. If you get cattle, just name em and put collars on all the "pets". 😁
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mike55: 30466261479195/comments/30466279798811
Sounds like a decent HOA then. If you get cattle, just name em and put collars on all the "pets". 😁
That is the plan.
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Quote; Yeah, this HOA has very few regulations. About the only one is "no commercial cattle farms".
You should be safe and good to go with all those pigs you plan to raise then Mr. P! 😁
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Brookwood: 30466261479195/comments/30466280030491
Quote; Yeah, this HOA has very few regulations. About the only one is "no commercial cattle farms".
You should be safe and good to go with all those pigs you plan to raise then Mr. P! 😁
Not doing pigs. BTDT got the t-shirt.
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Glad it worked out for you.
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