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  • Mr. Perfect
    Don McManus: 30415885458843/comments/30415841932699

    Correct, Allen. It could have been a parent, a sibling, even a cousin.

    Given what he is studying, my guess is that this guy set out to commit the perfect, unsolvable crime. He picked people with whom he had no association or connection. He picked a weapon that was not traceable. He made the mistake of either assuming he could keep from leaving DNA or made the mistake that he had not been DNA tested and was not traceable.

    As the vaunted Mr. Perfect stated, I too hope he is the guy that did it, because even if found innocent his life is over.

    Everyone I have talked to is on the same page. It sure seems the guy thinks he's smarter than everyone (lots of interviews with people that know him that talk about what a weirdo he is). Hard not to imagine a cocky, weirdo, criminal justice major getting the hair brained idea to pull off the "perfect crime" (in his mind) at this point. If that is the case, I certainly hope he fries.

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  • Alpine

    There are no coincidences. There will be cell phone evidence, there is DNA evidence, There is photo of his car in the area. There is cell phone evidence of him leaving the area after the murders.

    That is more enough to look at him for the murders.

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  • Don McManus

    The story told by surviving roommate DM is disturbing. I will admit I cannot put myself in that situation, but to see someone at a quarter after 4 in the morning and not do anything for almost 8 hours is bizarre.

    She has to live with something that is going to be very difficult.

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  • Mr. Perfect
    Don McManus: 30415885458843/comments/30415886443931

    The story told by surviving roommate DM is disturbing. I will admit I cannot put myself in that situation, but to see someone at a quarter after 4 in the morning and not do anything for almost 8 hours is bizarre.

    She has to live with something that is going to be very difficult.

    I haven't heard that part (somehow).

    Incidentally, I know one of the officers investigating this (Lanier). He is a good guy. We attended church together for years until I moved away. Our families still keep in touch.

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  • allen griggs

    nypost.com


    Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger was identified as a suspect in the gruesome murders after he left DNA on a knife sheath found by cops at the crime scene, it was revealed Thursday.

    As he made his first appearance in a Moscow, Idaho, court, cops released paperwork detailing what led them to suspect Kohberger of killing four University of Idaho students as they slept on Nov. 13.

    The affidavit describes how officers discovered a bloody scene over two floors and a leather knife sheath in one room where two victims were discovered in a single bed.

    “I later noticed what appeared to be a tan leather knife sheath laying on the bed next to Mogen’s right side,” officer Brett Payne wrote in the affidavit released Thursday, adding the sheath had “Ka-Bar,” “USMC” and “the United States Marine Corps eagle globe and anchor insignia.”

    FBI asked police to pull over accused Idaho butcher to get images of hands: report

    “The Idaho state lab later located a single source of male DNA (suspect Profile) left on the button snap of the knife sheath.”

    The affidavit details how investigators used surveillance camera footage, cellphone data, and FBI analyses to link Kohberger to the crime scene at the time of the killings.

    Investigators identified a white Hyundai Elantra that was seen traveling near the students’ house in Moscow, Idaho, between 3:29 a.m. and 4:20 a.m., the estimated time of the murder.

    The car circled the area three times, and then entered it a fourth time at 4:04 a.m. The vehicle, which matches the description of one owned by Kohberger, was seen departing the area around 4:20 a.m. at “a high rate of speed,” investigators wrote.

    After putting out a query on white Hyundai Elantras to the public on Nov. 25, police officers at Washington State University Pullman, where Kohberger was a PhD student, alerted investigators they found one in the parking lot of student housing on Nov. 29.

    Kohberger had been pulled over while driving the Hyundai in a traffic stop in August, which helped further the case.

    During the stop, the alleged suspect provided police with his phone number, which they were then able to link to cell tower data to find his location.

    Police said Kohberger’s phone pinged around 2:47 a.m. the night of the murder in Pullman, WA, where he lived. It then went quiet until approximately 4:48 a.m., when it showed him traveling on the highway south of Moscow, Idaho, near to the murder scene.

    His phone pinged a few more times before he headed to Pullman around 5:30 a.m. which led investigators to believe he took a purposefully circuitous route home. “The route of travel…is consistent with Kohberger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide,” the affidavit said

    Phone records dating back to June also revealed that Kohberger could have stalked the victims before the murder. His phone pinged in the coverage area of the student house “on at least twelve occasions prior to November 13, 2022. All of these occasions, except for one, occurred in the late evening and early morning hours of their respective days.”

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  • allen griggs

    nypost.com

    One of the roommates in the University of Idaho murder house came face-to-face with the killer, according to a police report.

    Four students were slaughtered on Nov. 13 but two friends who lived with them in the three story horror house in Moscow, Idaho — Bethany Funke, 21, and Dylan Mortensen, 21 — were spared.

    As suspect Bryan Kohberger appeared in court on Thursday to be charged with four counts of first degree murder over the stabbing deaths of Ethan Chapin, 20, Xana Kernodle, 20, Madison Mogen, 21, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, police released a probable cause affidavit detailing what led them to suspect him.

    It detailed Funke and Mortensen’s version of events, which stated all six people were in the home by 2 a.m. Mortensen, who lived on the first floor, said she had fallen asleep soon after but was awoken around 4 a.m. after which “she heard who she thought was Goncalves say something to the effect of ‘there’s someone here.’”

    She opened her door, but could see nothing. Mortensen then “opened her door a second time when she heard what she thought was crying coming from Kemodle’s room,” according to the police report. It added Mortensen “then said she heard a male voice say something to the effect of ’It’s ok, I’m going to help you.’”

    “Mortensen stated she opened her door for the third time after she heard the crying and saw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person’s mouth and nose walking towards her. “Mortensen described the figure as 5′ 1 0″ or taller, male, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows. The male walked past [her] as she stood in a ‘frozen shock phase.’ The male walked towards the back sliding glass door. Mortensen locked herself in her room after seeing the male.”

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  • KenK/84Bravo

    His post Graduate Study, is enlightening/eye opening, as well. (Leading as to speculation as to why he did this.)

    DNA evidence is pretty difficult to repudiate.

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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator

    Keep him in isolation- no one to talk to

    minimal contact with guards

    interviews kept short and direct

    continue to gather evidence, cross Ts, dot the i


    He will be going nuts wanting to know what they know/ have on him

    He will have a need to start talking. He will need the bragging, the attention. He will talk.

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  • NeoBlackdog

    Do you suppose they'll be accepting volunteers to build the scaffold from which he'll hang?

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  • allen griggs

    He imagines himself a genius, getting his Phd. And he leaves the Ka-Bar sheath at the scene. Dummy! Cops discovered "unknown male DNA" on the button snap of the sheath.

    That saved the cops a massive amount of work, otherwise they would have had to test hundreds, or thousands of blood samples from all over 2 apartments.

    He's stupid, but probably not stupid enough to have run his DNA on 23andme.com The cops ran that unknown DNA on Ancestry and 23andme, just looking for a second cousin, looking for a third cousin.

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  • BobJudy

    It seemed to show a lot of effective cooperation between the FBI and local law enforcement, both in Idaho and Illinois where they had him pulled over to surreptitiously gain knowledge of any hand injuries and confirm his cell phone number. I also heard they raided the garbage at his parents home to get samples to verify the dna. The public was kept in the dark to avoid compromising the investigation and I think that was wise. Now if we could just get the FBI to stick to this kind of law enforcement and out of politics we would all be better off. Regardless - well done law enforcement!. Bob

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  • Mr. Perfect

    This whole thing is really hitting home to me this morning. I have been so busy building the shop at my place I haven't had a lot of time to think about it, or even really watch the news (though they run news updates at all times, it seems), but last night I spent some time reading through the affidavit that was released. Man, this is hitting me like a ton of bricks.

    I have many connections to Moscow, the University of Idaho, and WSU. I lived in Moscow while attending school at WSU for my first 2 years there. My wife (girlfriend at the time) attended the UofI and I got to know her circle of friends there. I have many friends who we regularly see that attended there and while my wife and I were dating I spent a lot of time on the UofI campus. I know right where King road is. I bought my first home in Moscow and lived there many years commuting to Colton and Uniontown and Lewiston and Clarkston for work (all places named in the report). One of my really good friends was a professor at the UofI. All my kids were born in Moscow. I have family that currently lives in Moscow and a daughter living in Pullman attending WSU. Two of my nieces were in the sororities at the UofI and the one who graduated from there last year had seen the victims at parties. I drove through Moscow last October to attend a wedding in Lewiston, about a month before this all happened. One of the lead investigators is a friend (as I mentioned above). The victims and their families are from Coeur d' Alene, which is where I do most of my shopping currently. Moscow is a small town in an Idaho paradise.


    I am really pretty ticked and growing more and more angry that this happened in a community to which I have so many ties and love. That this sicko would seek out victims in the tight nit community in which I lived and worked and have roots is really, very maddening. Moscow, Idaho is now a household name for all the wrong reasons. I have to curb my tongue here, but I really, really hope that this evil guy gets all the worst he has coming to him.

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