Probably gonna be upset
I imagine when folks finally realize people are collapsing because of the jab, they're going to be upset. When they find out the jab makers have indemnity to it, they're gonna be more upset.
Video: Canadian Reporter Almost Collapses During Live Broadcast
Jessica Robb can be seen having trouble speaking and running out of words. At one point, she looks bewildered and appears to be losing her balance.
Old Dominion Basketball Player Imo Essien Collapsed During Game
Old Dominion sophomore guard Imo Essien collapsed on the court during the Monarch's game against Georgia Southern.
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A 21 year old Student/Athlete (Linebacker) at the Air Force Academy, just dropped dead going to class, this morning/afternoon. ("Medical Emergency.) You can bet (per Military requirement) they were forced to get the Vaccine. No choice. Welcome to Amerika Comrade.
Too many previously healthy people (Pilots) etc, experiencing Health problems shortly after getting the jab. The information is out there if you read between the lines and ignore MSM.
A RNA Vaccine, where the manufacturers are indemnified of any wrong doing, rushed to market, bypassing existing protocols. (After) We were all lied to about the origins of this Bio-weapon that got loose. (Where) Quite a few of the Elite are making major $$. (Including Faucci.) [They should hang his butt.]
Personally, I think I will take a big PASS on that Hot Mess.
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We just had a friend die of the jab... Before he died he got to Stanford and they said that's why he was so sick 😱🙏 Travis is greatly missed.
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BobJudy: 30377015528987/comments/30377072235035
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373236#Comment_11373236
Here is the statement from the CDC regarding VAERS;
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html
Note in the statement they say that a report to VAERS does not mean the incident was caused by a vaccine.
A certain portion of the population unfortunately becomes ill or even dies daily. When you have a mass inoculation over a short period of time, wouldn't a lot of those ordinary illnesses or deaths be reported to VAERS if they occurred shortly after the shot was given? So 3 years ago if lets say 100 people out of a million died daily it was just a normal event. Now because almost 70% of those million people are vaccinated and some died shortly after the shot, those same 100 deaths become the shots fault. Kind of strange logic there.
There just may be a problem with the vaccines, but so far in my search I find no reliable proof that shows that. I find a lot of opinions that are backed by either incomplete or misrepresented data. I haven't got through all of the Ron Johnson Covid meetings yet but so far it seems to be politically skewed with little real verifiable data. I'm hoping it gets better as I continue to watch it.
I don't have an ax to grind, and kind of have Ken's attitude of it should be everyone's choice about whether or not you get vaccinated. I just want the truth about it's effects. Unfortunately there is a lot of B.S. out there, both for and against, that needs to be waded through. I'll just keep plodding along in my quest until it drives me totally bonkers because for now, at least, it is interesting. Bob
Ok. Like I said, VAERS validity has NEVER been questioned until now...when it doesnt suit their narative.
No, VAERS is not PROOF but it has been well established as scientifically valid, until cov vac that is. WHY?
If you want straight facts, I suggest you browse through the many videos by Dr Campbell. I suggest Rumble, because dummytube removes videos if you mention the vax can even POSSIBLY cause death.
Dr Campbell takes govt data and reads it straight from the source and peer reviewed data. He has VERY little personal input, for fear of being banned.
He was actually FOR the cov vax, until the data PROVED it was ineffective at best, and deadly at worst. He has taken both doses and one booster. He said he will NOT take any more.
Some vids of interest for you would orob be the "excess deaths" videos he makes. He shows how many people are dying in excess of the 5 year average, and they DO differentiate between covid and non covid, so that takes into account the pandemic.
AND again, to each their own. If you CHOSE to take a vax then Im all for it. BUT no one should be forced
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377044452635
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373248#Comment_11373248
Ok. Like I said, VAERS validity has NEVER been questioned until now...when it doesnt suit their narative.
No, VAERS is not PROOF but it has been well established as scientifically valid, until cov vac that is. WHY?
If you want straight facts, I suggest you browse through the many videos by Dr Campbell. I suggest Rumble, because dummytube removes videos if you mention the vax can even POSSIBLY cause death.
Dr Campbell takes govt data and reads it straight from the source and peer reviewed data. He has VERY little personal input, for fear of being banned.
He was actually FOR the cov vax, until the data PROVED it was ineffective at best, and deadly at worst. He has taken both doses and one booster. He said he will NOT take any more.
Some vids of interest for you would orob be the "excess deaths" videos he makes. He shows how many people are dying in excess of the 5 year average, and they DO differentiate between covid and non covid, so that takes into account the pandemic.
AND again, to each their own. If you CHOSE to take a vax then Im all for it. BUT no one should be forced
I've run across Campbell before in my searches. I am not exactly sure how much credence to give his videos. For one thing his PHD (doctorate) seems to be in nursing. His PHD was awarded for his work in remote/video training of nurses. There is nothing wrong with that, but it can be misleading calling him doctor in a health related video. I would feel more comfortable if he was a licensed physician or epidemiologist that was educated in interpreting some of the information he is passing on in his videos. So, I am not comfortable accepting his conclusions as there are to many other real physicians that call those conclusions into question. He may be right but until those conclusions are confirmed by someone with a more appropriate background, I'll take those conclusions with a grain of salt.
I wholeheartedly agree with you in regards to taking the vaccine should be a choice and not forced on anyone. Bob
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Well, would you look at that:
CDC, FDA see possible link between Pfizer’s bivalent shot and strokes
The agencies said the surveillance signal “is very unlikely” to represent a “true clinical risk” and said they continued to recommend the vaccine.6 -
More to follow!
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Mr. Perfect: 30377015528987/comments/30377069623835
Well, would you look at that:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/13/cdc-fda-pfizer-bivalent-vaccine-possible-strokes-00077933
I read this earlier today and almost posted the link to illustrate why getting to the bottom of this vaccine good/bad is so hard. In this article it says there has been no evidence of a problem from multiple sources but they are going to check anyway. It also says that there may be a link to cardio events from the vaccine and then say that the virus and other ailments cause the same thing and those cases may be more severe. Kind a of a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.
Since this link gave really no evidence of a problem and actually gave evidence to the contrary, it was no help at all. Like I said the other day, I'll keep looking but so far no luck. Bob
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BobJudy: 30377015528987/comments/30377074672539
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373627#Comment_11373627
I've run across Campbell before in my searches. I am not exactly sure how much credence to give his videos. For one thing his PHD (doctorate) seems to be in nursing. His PHD was awarded for his work in remote/video training of nurses. There is nothing wrong with that, but it can be misleading calling him doctor in a health related video. I would feel more comfortable if he was a licensed physician or epidemiologist that was educated in interpreting some of the information he is passing on in his videos. So, I am not comfortable accepting his conclusions as there are to many other real physicians that call those conclusions into question. He may be right but until those conclusions are confirmed by someone with a more appropriate background, I'll take those conclusions with a grain of salt.
I wholeheartedly agree with you in regards to taking the vaccine should be a choice and not forced on anyone. Bob
Ok. So basically your saying that any evidence against the vaccine is NOT good enough "proof" for you. Thats ok, I tried to help.
Dr John Campbell reads FACTS straight from government websites, oeer5 reviewed studies, and other credible sources. He is simply showing all this information in an easy to find video so someone doesnt gave to search for them. He includes links to ALL his information. If thats not good enough, then nothing will be good enough.
Just sayin'
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377084557339
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373653#Comment_11373653
Ok. So basically your saying that any evidence against the vaccine is NOT good enough "proof" for you. Thats ok, I tried to help.
Dr John Campbell reads FACTS straight from government websites, oeer5 reviewed studies, and other credible sources. He is simply showing all this information in an easy to find video so someone doesnt gave to search for them. He includes links to ALL his information. If thats not good enough, then nothing will be good enough.
Just sayin'
Some folks just trust big pharma and the government a whole lot more than I.
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377084557339
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373653#Comment_11373653
Ok. So basically your saying that any evidence against the vaccine is NOT good enough "proof" for you. Thats ok, I tried to help.
Dr John Campbell reads FACTS straight from government websites, oeer5 reviewed studies, and other credible sources. He is simply showing all this information in an easy to find video so someone doesnt gave to search for them. He includes links to ALL his information. If thats not good enough, then nothing will be good enough.
Just sayin'
Nope, I didn't question the facts, only the interpretation thereof. That is the problem I am having with this search, 10 "seemingly" credible people look at the same evidence and get 10 different interpretations. I told you I was trying to be neutral in an effort to find the truth but those 10 different interpretations make it difficult. I could take the easy way out like a lot of folks do and find an opinion that fits my preconceived notions and accept it. Doesn't mean I would be correct.
Mr. Perfect: 30377015528987/comments/30377091581467
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373924#Comment_11373924
Some folks just trust big pharma and the government a whole lot more than I.
I suppose some folks do, but if I did I wouldn't be spending as much time on this as I have these past few weeks. But you are the one that posted the link to an article that seemed to recommend getting vaccinated.
After all of my searching for information about all I can say in regards to the vaccine, I'm back to the damned if you do and damned if you don't conclusion. That isn't good enough and I'll keep looking. Bob
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Keep looking Bob, nothing wrong with that, I made up my mind over 2 years ago, I will not get it and thus I have no need to continue to argue with folks that did. Which is why I have pretty much stayed on the sidelines for the most recent posts about this topic which was banned from here for a while because people will argue to try to justify personal decisions they made... I got a few disagrees back when I tried to warn folks about this, but hey we all made our choices, some folks lost there jobs, others conformed to their bosses... Heck even the military and some government agencies along with a lot of private companies have backtracked on requirement recently... So who will be right? I don't know or really care anymore, I made my choice back then...
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Ruger4me: 30377015528987/comments/30377085258011
Keep looking Bob, nothing wrong with that, I made up my mind over 2 years ago, I will not get it and thus I have no need to continue to argue with folks that did. Which is why I have pretty much stayed on the sidelines for the most recent posts about this topic which was banned from here for a while because people will argue to try to justify personal decisions they made... I got a few disagrees back when I tried to warn folks about this, but hey we all made our choices, some folks lost there jobs, others conformed to their bosses... Heck even the military and some government agencies along with a lot of private companies have backtracked on requirement recently... So who will be right? I don't know or really care anymore, I made my choice back then...
I respect your decision and believe all should have a choice. I hope no one reading this topic thinks I have been advocating either for or against getting vaccinated. I am simply looking for the truth about the vaccine side effects. It has actually been kind of interesting so far. On the gov't side you will find mostly vaccine cheerleaders with just a few naysayers. Remember the "get the shot and you won't get the virus" statements made by Biden and then he caught covid. 😁 Every once in a while for entertainment, I'll watch Tucker Carlson. Recently he quoted a study that said over 1500 athletes had died because of the vaccine. Well it turns out a lot of folks on the list he quoted were in their 60's, 70's and even in their 80's and included cancer deaths, cardiac deaths and just plain old age like Hank Aaron at the age of 86. I guess he thinks anyone that has died in the last 2 yrs has either been from covid or the vaccine.🤔 I would hope that most of our forum members don't fall for the claims of either extreme ends of the vaccine spectrum.
Like I stated in an earlier post, I actually don't worry much anymore about catching Covid. Not because of the vaccine but because of the wide range of how serious it is if infected. I read one study that said there have been probably 50% or more infections than we know about. There are so many asymptomatic cases and others that are just a case of the sniffles, and since those folks don't get tested the infection goes unreported. Heck, my allergies and sinuses are so bad that I could have had covid and it just blended in with my normal everday sneezing, and blowing my nose. Haven't been tested and don't intend to. My theory is if I am ever sick enough to seek medical attention they'll do it if necessary. If I am not that sick, then who cares? Bob
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Message from the US govt:
"Who are you gonna believe, me, or your lying eyes"
😁
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Ruger4me: 30377015528987/comments/30377085258011
Keep looking Bob, nothing wrong with that, I made up my mind over 2 years ago, I will not get it and thus I have no need to continue to argue with folks that did. Which is why I have pretty much stayed on the sidelines for the most recent posts about this topic which was banned from here for a while because people will argue to try to justify personal decisions they made... I got a few disagrees back when I tried to warn folks about this, but hey we all made our choices, some folks lost there jobs, others conformed to their bosses... Heck even the military and some government agencies along with a lot of private companies have backtracked on requirement recently... So who will be right? I don't know or really care anymore, I made my choice back then...
Well said..
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@Ruger4me, fully agree with you Brother.
I am no longer in the Military. I will not be forced to do something contrary to my beliefs.
(Like [specifically] getting the Jab.)
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