Probably gonna be upset
I imagine when folks finally realize people are collapsing because of the jab, they're going to be upset. When they find out the jab makers have indemnity to it, they're gonna be more upset.
Video: Canadian Reporter Almost Collapses During Live Broadcast
Jessica Robb can be seen having trouble speaking and running out of words. At one point, she looks bewildered and appears to be losing her balance.
Old Dominion Basketball Player Imo Essien Collapsed During Game
Old Dominion sophomore guard Imo Essien collapsed on the court during the Monarch's game against Georgia Southern.
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They’ll probably be even MORE upset when they realize that their initial upsettedness was fueled by wild internet speculation rather than evidence.
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Sounds more like a diabetic episode from the symptoms. Not discounting the vaccine worries, but I scoured the web the other day and found a lot of gloomy accusations and just as many denying any problems exist. Kind of hard to know who to believe. I would wager the truth is somewhere in the middle and like any medical treatment there will be a small minority that have adverse reactions. No matter what the truth is, it will never convince everyone. It brings to mind the furor over childhood vaccines being accused of causing autism and that was old technology and not this new MRNA stuff that a lot of folks fear because it is new. Bob
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I wager that it is not a small minority that have adverse reactions, more like majority. That is ALL adverse reactions, but SERIOUS adverse reactions occurs in a hefty percentage! Just watch the congressional round table discussions with the ONLY member of congress who seems to care, just google em.
Not ALL of these can be attributed to a vax reaction, but that doesnt mean we should ignore ALL of them, and their are lots.
The extreme number of sudden cardiac deaths in young people are hard to ignore, at least for me!
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Just trust the Government and the MSM.. You'll be fine...
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the true side effects of the UNTESTED and UNPROVEN technology of the mRNA vaccine for COVID is going to be the biggest story in public health care in the last 50 years. The FDA and big gov fast-tracked this crap without any long term data.
I used to do Phase I - IV pharmaceutical research trials. None of which were conducted with the COVID vax. The mRNA vax release was/is a travesty and a joke.
It is not referred to as the "clot shot" without reason.
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377031375131
I wager that it is not a small minority that have adverse reactions, more like majority. That is ALL adverse reactions, but SERIOUS adverse reactions occurs in a hefty percentage! Just watch the congressional round table discussions with the ONLY member of congress who seems to care, just google em.
Not ALL of these can be attributed to a vax reaction, but that doesnt mean we should ignore ALL of them, and their are lots.
The extreme number of sudden cardiac deaths in young people are hard to ignore, at least for me!
Mike55, I am not doubting you, but wonder if you could provide a link for the number of cardiac arrests in young people and the causes. All of the info from "creditable" sources I can find says the virus is the primary cause for the heart problems. Some say catching Covid without being vaccinated increases the chances of heart problems 6X vs being vaccinated in the young.
I don't know if any increase in cardiac episodes is due to the virus, the vaccine or both. It may be a case of correlation not leading to causation. Perhaps my search parameters are wrong, so if you have any links to peer reviewed info/statistics about this and could pass them along I'd appreciate it. Bob
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I can see it all playing out now. Big Brother will finally take a little bit of responsibility, but will blame it all on Trump, and his "Operation Warp Speed" plan.
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BobJudy: 30377015528987/comments/30377037655451
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373119#Comment_11373119
Mike55, I am not doubting you, but wonder if you could provide a link for the number of cardiac arrests in young people and the causes. All of the info from "creditable" sources I can find says the virus is the primary cause for the heart problems. Some say catching Covid without being vaccinated increases the chances of heart problems 6X vs being vaccinated in the young.
I don't know if any increase in cardiac episodes is due to the virus, the vaccine or both. It may be a case of correlation not leading to causation. Perhaps my search parameters are wrong, so if you have any links to peer reviewed info/statistics about this and could pass them along I'd appreciate it. Bob
Like i said......Google. There are at least 2 round table events with a sitting member of congress. He is the host. He has doctors from every aspect, including the Dr who helped invent mRna technology. THEY provide the data that you are requesting. Watch, listen, and check out the facts they provide. These are around 3 hours each and they will answer all your questions.
The young people didnt start falling dead from sudden cardiac events (not in these high numbers) until the "vaccine" was forced on everyone. We went 12-18 months of the worst variant of covid, yet virtually NO young people died. Insert the shot, young people start dying! Is this peer reviewed, no but its still hard to ignore.
The roundtable interviews should satisfy your need for published facts. Like I said, watch em, listen to em, and the look up their sources.
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What's the source of your graph, Randy? I'd like to dig into that more. It certainly looks damning.
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NeoBlackdog: 30377015528987/comments/30377050259867
What's the source of your graph, Randy? I'd like to dig into that more. It certainly looks damning.
Myo/Pericarditis - OpenVAERS
VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness.3 -
Lies, Damn Lies, ……and Statistics
Those who oppose the vaccine will find statistics to support their position, and those on the other side will find statistics that support theirs.
There is virtually nothing these days that is truly objective.
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377026730651
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373135#Comment_11373135
Like i said......Google. There are at least 2 round table events with a sitting member of congress. He is the host. He has doctors from every aspect, including the Dr who helped invent mRna technology. THEY provide the data that you are requesting. Watch, listen, and check out the facts they provide. These are around 3 hours each and they will answer all your questions.
The young people didnt start falling dead from sudden cardiac events (not in these high numbers) until the "vaccine" was forced on everyone. We went 12-18 months of the worst variant of covid, yet virtually NO young people died. Insert the shot, young people start dying! Is this peer reviewed, no but its still hard to ignore.
The roundtable interviews should satisfy your need for published facts. Like I said, watch em, listen to em, and the look up their sources.
I will look them up when I can spare that much time to watch 6 hours worth. Thanks.
Mr. Perfect: 30377015528987/comments/30377050361755
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373179#Comment_11373179
Interesting, and will need further study. It certainly seems damning but leaves a lot out. Since viruses can damage the heart, how many of those that died had covid sometime before their heart problems? Could the damage have been done by the virus but only became evident after the lock downs were over and people resumed normal strenuous activity like sports? In other words, did the virus during lockdowns build a pool of people with heart problems? Once again does correlation mean causation? They may have all had vaccines but how many had a history of having had covid?
The Janssen vaccine was by far the smallest percentage of doses given and is not a MRNA vaccine but still has representation on the chart that corresponds with it's usage. All of the representations seem to follow the amount that each was used. Strange that two different types of vaccines have the same side effects. I'm going to have to keep digging to see if I can find an unbiased study that takes into account all factors. If you run across one before I do, please pass it along. Bob
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This is one study that tells of the potential for heart problems even in the asymptomatic cases -
COVID and the Heart: It Spares No One | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
New evidence suggests anyone infected with COVID is at higher risk for heart issues—a risk that persists even in relatively healthy people long after the illness has passed.0 -
I am sure that Bill Gates of Moderna and Albert Bourla of Pfizer only care about our health, and not the billions in income.🙄
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Frogdog: 30377015528987/comments/30377019870491
Lies, Damn Lies, ……and Statistics
Those who oppose the vaccine will find statistics to support their position, and those on the other side will find statistics that support theirs.
There is virtually nothing these days that is truly objective.
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I read a stat that claimed everyone that ate celery before the year 1900 is dead now.No more celery for me.
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Yep, those suckers who got the early polio vax in the 50’s are now starting to drop like flies too. Someone should sound the alarm. It must be the vaccine.
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buddyb: 30377015528987/comments/30377051393563
I read a stat that claimed everyone that ate celery before the year 1900 is dead now.No more celery for me.
Frogdog: 30377015528987/comments/30377054891291
Yep, those suckers who got the early polio vax in the 50’s are now starting to drop like flies too. Someone should sound the alarm. It must be the vaccine.
You don't have to be convinced there's a connection between heart issues and the covid vax after looking at the scant data presented here, but your hyperbolic non sequiturs aren't any sort of argument against the connection. Do you have something to contribute or are you just trolling?
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No trolling here. Sorry if it came off like that (I knew I should have added a little smiley!! 😁). Anyhow, just pointing out the lack of real evidence presented whenever these claims of a connection come up. Not saying there is or there isn’t one. Who knows? However, people are all over every corner of the Internet claiming the vax is responsible, but never seem to produce anything that is definitive, verifiable, and from a credible source. Just video clips of random people collapsing, and charts/stats without credible footnotes.
Ultimately, we can all probably agree, however, that the vaccine should be (and should have always been) a personal choice where you weigh the risks, make your decision, and are accountable to yourself for whatever comes.
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Mr. Perfect: 30377015528987/comments/30377052173851
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373190#Comment_11373190
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373191#Comment_11373191
You don't have to be convinced there's a connection between heart issues and the covid vax after looking at the scant data presented here, but your hyperbolic non sequiturs aren't any sort of argument against the connection. Do you have something to contribute or are you just trolling?
Mr. P, I assumed those comments pertained, in a slightly humorous way, to my causation/correlation comment and I wasn't offended. But they did illustrate the fallacy of jumping to conclusions.
Did you read the Johns Hopkins study I linked to? If, and that is a big if, it is correct it can explain a lot of those cardiac problems we are talking about. Since it was done before the vaccines were in common use and they still found cardiac problems among those that had a covid history it points to the virus as the reason for it. They will be doing a post vaccine study that will show if the vaccine has exacerbated the problem. It may be a long time, if ever, before we actually know. Bob
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Have not got, nor do I intend to get the "Vaccine."
If you feel like getting it, knock yourself out. No one is stopping you.
Me? I'm Not taking it.
You? That's on you.
Help yourself.
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VAERS reports show where people fall dead from the "vax" within 24 hrs of the shot. VAERS shows a LOT of adverse events within 24 hrs of the shot. This is a system that has been in place and TRUSTED for every other vaccine since VAERS inception.
BUT now all of a sudden the govt says we cant trust that system! WHY NOT? Why did the military stop publishing their version of VAERS? So many vaccines were pulled from TRIALS with WAY WAY less adverse events.
This one is too big to cover up. The truth will come out one day, once the govt stops SHUTTING DOWN FREE SPEECH. Anyone that TRIES to point out the problems are ruined!
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Frogdog: 30377015528987/comments/30377010375707
They’ll probably be even MORE upset when they realize that their initial upsettedness was fueled by wild internet speculation rather than evidence.
And some people will be even more upset when they realize that the information was out there. If only they had paid attention, and listened to experts. There are no coincidences.
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mike55: 30377015528987/comments/30377071165339
VAERS reports show where people fall dead from the "vax" within 24 hrs of the shot. VAERS shows a LOT of adverse events within 24 hrs of the shot. This is a system that has been in place and TRUSTED for every other vaccine since VAERS inception.
BUT now all of a sudden the govt says we cant trust that system! WHY NOT? Why did the military stop publishing their version of VAERS? So many vaccines were pulled from TRIALS with WAY WAY less adverse events.
This one is too big to cover up. The truth will come out one day, once the govt stops SHUTTING DOWN FREE SPEECH. Anyone that TRIES to point out the problems are ruined!
Here is the statement from the CDC regarding VAERS;
VAERS | Vaccine Safety | CDC
VAERS is the national vaccine safety monitoring system that accepts reports of adverse events after vaccination. The system can quickly detect potential safety issues with vaccines.Note in the statement they say that a report to VAERS does not mean the incident was caused by a vaccine.
A certain portion of the population unfortunately becomes ill or even dies daily. When you have a mass inoculation over a short period of time, wouldn't a lot of those ordinary illnesses or deaths be reported to VAERS if they occurred shortly after the shot was given? So 3 years ago if lets say 100 people out of a million died daily it was just a normal event. Now because almost 70% of those million people are vaccinated and some died shortly after the shot, those same 100 deaths become the shots fault. Kind of strange logic there.
There just may be a problem with the vaccines, but so far in my search I find no reliable proof that shows that. I find a lot of opinions that are backed by either incomplete or misrepresented data. I haven't got through all of the Ron Johnson Covid meetings yet but so far it seems to be politically skewed with little real verifiable data. I'm hoping it gets better as I continue to watch it.
I don't have an ax to grind, and kind of have Ken's attitude of it should be everyone's choice about whether or not you get vaccinated. I just want the truth about it's effects. Unfortunately there is a lot of B.S. out there, both for and against, that needs to be waded through. I'll just keep plodding along in my quest until it drives me totally bonkers because for now, at least, it is interesting. Bob
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Mass DNA change to be be able to tolerate the alien invasion
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BobJudy: 30377015528987/comments/30377041114267
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373197#Comment_11373197
Mr. P, I assumed those comments pertained, in a slightly humorous way, to my causation/correlation comment and I wasn't offended. But they did illustrate the fallacy of jumping to conclusions.
Did you read the Johns Hopkins study I linked to? If, and that is a big if, it is correct it can explain a lot of those cardiac problems we are talking about. Since it was done before the vaccines were in common use and they still found cardiac problems among those that had a covid history it points to the virus as the reason for it. They will be doing a post vaccine study that will show if the vaccine has exacerbated the problem. It may be a long time, if ever, before we actually know. Bob
Yes. It has been known that the virus itself may induce heart issues in some. Part of the problem is that the vax increases the likelihood you get the virus. https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/study-finds-gradual-increase-in-covid-infection-risk-after-second-vaccine-dose/
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More athletes have died from sudden cardiac events since the vaccine was MANDATED than died of sudden cardiac events in the 38 years COMBINED prior to the vaccine release.
What is the difference?...................an EXPERIMENTAL and UNTESTED vaccine.
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Mr. Perfect: 30377015528987/comments/30377088321307
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11373221#Comment_11373221
Yes. It has been known that the virus itself may induce heart issues in some. Part of the problem is that the vax increases the likelihood you get the virus. https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/study-finds-gradual-increase-in-covid-infection-risk-after-second-vaccine-dose/
It must be human nature for two people to read the same study and draw two different conclusions. Not just you and I, but people in general.
I read the study and interpret it to mean that the second virus dose decreases in efficiency over time so they were pushing a booster as being the solution. Not that the vaccine increases the chances of infection.
I could understand why some folks after getting the vaccine might ignore basic common sense like washing their hands or avoiding contact with sick people so an increase in infections might actually happen. That wouldn't be the fault of the vaccine. It would be the fault of the erroneous claims initially made about the vaccines by Fauci and all of the politicians that pushed it. Remember the claims that said you wouldn't catch the virus if you were vaccinated? Or in all likelihood, a lot of folks are to stupid to know that the vaccine is more of a treatment and not a preventative even after months of that being told daily by the medical profession.
Personally, I don't wear masks, do wash my hands a bit more often and avoid folks with cold and flu symptoms. I don't want a cold or the flu either. For the most part, I don't give catching covid much thought. If my rudimentary precautions aren't sufficient, I guess I'll probably catch it sooner or later. I did choose to get vaxxed, so "maybe" that'll help with symptoms. I'm through worrying about it. Just out of curiosity I still would like to know if the vaccine dangers are true or not. Not out of worry, more for the pleasure of gaining actual knowledge about a subject. Bob
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Everybody that trusts the Federal Government, its bureaucrats, the words from the CDC and Dr. Fauci when it comes to the truth in disclosing Covid 19's origins, the effectiveness of paper masks and the safety of the so-called vaccines for it please tell us why you have this trust.
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