1911 Experts?
Tell me what you can. I got it at a real good deal from a buddy. It was his grandpa's. Story is that grandpa had it polished. According to Colt's serial number lookup, it was produced around 1914.
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It’s a 1911 military issue, appears it never went back to one of the arsenals to be rebuilt into a 1911A1. 1911A1 had a round back strap, shorter trigger wider front front sight and wider notch rear sight. Also by the trigger the receivers were relieved on the edge of the receivers by the trigger, and would have had brown plastic grips added. Would have been worth more if it had the original finish rather than having being polished. Should make a nice shooter though.
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Yes I wish it had the original beat up finish. The grips I believe are handmade. They are a lot thicker than I prefer. I only got about $250 in it so I think I did well. It’s well worth that to me anyway.
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That is a very nice early piece, albeit without the blued finish. I would be proud to have it and would probably have it blued. Collectors can be so fussy.
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Nice pistol.
I do have a question. Albeit it might be the angle/lighting of the photo.
The below photo shows the magazine inserted (presumably locked in place). And there is a gap between the slide locking lug and the bottom of the slide. If in fact there is a gap, is the magazine follower pushing 'up' on the slide locking lug. Does the slide lock back when racking the pistol with magazine inserted and locked. I build my pistols with a .020" gap without magazine and slide release pushed down. A curious mind needs to know ,,,,,,🤣
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"original finish rather than having being polished"....just to note; not only has it been 'polished', it has also been nickel plated (or chromed)'
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forgemonkey: 30371546223899/comments/30371570079515
Nice pistol.
I do have a question. Albeit it might be the angle/lighting of the photo.
The below photo shows the magazine inserted (presumably locked in place). And there is a gap between the slide locking lug and the bottom of the slide. If in fact there is a gap, is the magazine follower pushing 'up' on the slide locking lug. Does the slide lock back when racking the pistol with magazine inserted and locked. I build my pistols with a .020" gap without magazine and slide release pushed down. A curious mind needs to know ,,,,,,🤣
https://us.v-cdn.net/6031683/uploads/HRFDL5M9LWY3/img-1911.jpeg
I am no 1911 guru so I really don’t understand the question. This is the only one I own. Do these pictures answer your question?
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MIKE WISKEY: 30371546223899/comments/30371532539803
"original finish rather than having being polished"....just to note; not only has it been 'polished', it has also been nickel plated (or chromed)'
I wasn’t sure on that. For somebody who has never done that type work, how does that happen? Liquid nickel, liquid chrome brushed on? If that’s the case it would seem to me that it could possibly mess with tolerances?
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cavemanshane: 30371546223899/comments/30371563059611
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11381686#Comment_11381686
I am no 1911 guru so I really don’t understand the question. This is the only one I own. Do these pictures answer your question?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6031683/uploads/LDSBCZ0W215R/60db0b55-b60b-466d-b5b6-1c79bc5768db.jpeg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6031683/uploads/FOCNZ15RH9SI/fab0bc08-de30-4854-a2a1-ed28dd359de9.jpeg
Try this. With the empty magazine locked in place, forcefully pull the slide all the way to the rear. Does the slide ‘lock open’ ??
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forgemonkey: 30371546223899/comments/30371556534427
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11381719#Comment_11381719
Try this. With the empty magazine locked in place, forcefully pull the slide all the way to the rear. Does the slide ‘lock open’ ??
I think it does. I will check it out tonight and let you know
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"? Liquid nickel, liquid chrome brushed on?"...........this is a chemical/electrical prosses called 'plating.'
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It's also called "electrolysis". And, the process can work in either direction; i.e., you can plate metals onto your gun, or use it to take metals off of your gun. So, you could remove the current plated finish & "parkerize" the gun so that it would look like it had been "reparked" at a military arsenal. Dings & worn markings would look no better than they did when the gun was plated. Best done by experts, the process can release hydrogen, an explosive.
Military pistols are often designed with looser tolerances that civilian models. A Colt Gold Cup has much tighter tolerances that your 1911.
Neal
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nmyers: 30371546223899/comments/30371563281051
It's also called "electrolysis". And, the process can work in either direction; i.e., you can plate metals onto your gun, or use it to take metals off of your gun. So, you could remove the current plated finish & "parkerize" the gun so that it would look like it had been "reparked" at a military arsenal. Dings & worn markings would look no better than they did when the gun was plated. Best done by experts, the process can release hydrogen, an explosive.
Military pistols are often designed with looser tolerances that civilian models. A Colt Gold Cup has much tighter tolerances that your 1911.
Neal
Thanks. Not something I have ever been interested in enough to look up. Either way, I wish it hadn't been done to this one.
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