A sub is lost with five souls on board
Two and a half miles down, it does not sound good for the crew.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-rescue-mission-underway-newfoundland-canada/
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It is official. It imploded on its way down . At least it was quick .Prayers for their souls and families.
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They'll never find any bodies unless one somehow got caught in the debris. Otherwise, they have been drifting in currents now since Sunday.
At least it was quick. At most, they may have heard the first crackling of the graphite giving way, but that would have been far less than a second from first failure to implosion. "Never knew what hit them" is entirely apt.
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Rocky Raab: 30129235836187/comments/30129260095387
They'll never find any bodies unless one somehow got caught in the debris. Otherwise, they have been drifting in currents now since Sunday.
At least it was quick. At most, they may have heard the first crackling of the graphite giving way, but that would have been far less than a second from first failure to implosion. "Never knew what hit them" is entirely apt.
There may not be much left of the bodies of these poor souls. The effects of the implosion crushing and shattering the submersible combined with the massive over pressure, likely did away with the remains. Mercifully, it probably happened so fast that they didn't have time to even feel pain or understand what was happening.
I may not totally agree with this type of tourism, but I hope they RIP. Bob
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Many here had it pegged correct. It was a Death Trap. Prayers for their souls and their families. -----------------------------Ray
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Debris was found there are no survivors immediate death
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This will be an interesting process as government around the world decide to react to this event. There are going to be those folks that protest the potential for disturbing the Titanic grave site with additional wreckage, and there will be those that seek to protect their citizens from the risks associated with going down to the ship in anything other than a fully tested and approved submersible.
Hopefully governments will recognize that the bargain basement approach by OceanGate opens the site to the moderately wealthy and that insisting upon the expense of a fully tested and governmentally approved vessel would price all but the very wealthy from the opportunity to see the wreck. People should have the right to chose their destiny. If a $ 250K option is available, there are probably 6 million Americans who could afford it. Were that price raise to $ 1 million plus, and would probably be required were the government to insert itself, the opportunity would be denied to a wide swath of people who may be willing to take the risk.
In short, lets hope that the nanny state does not enact restrictions that prevent the very opportunity that these people chose.
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A horrific way to die. Even though I don't know any who were on board, my heart goes out to them and their families.
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Honestly, if they were living out a dream, I can't think of a better way to go. It was likely instant death doing something they really, really wanted to do.
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Apparently the US Navy detected the Titan implosion on Sunday but Biden held the news until today's whistleblower testimony on Hunter. WSJ has the story but it's behind a paywall.
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Mr. Perfect: 30129235836187/comments/30129260968987
Apparently the US Navy detected the Titan implosion on Sunday but Biden held the news until today's whistleblower testimony on Hunter. WSJ has the story but it's behind a paywall.
Here's Fox's version for you Mr. P -
US Navy detected Titan sub implosion with top secret acoustic system day vessel went missing
The U.S. Navy said Thursday it detected sounds consistent with an implosion or explosion in the vicinity where the Titan submersible went missing.Nothing about the Biden's though. Bob
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Well that's the Biden Crime Family for ya!
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BobJudy: 30129235836187/comments/30129269103003
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11398578#Comment_11398578
Here's Fox's version for you Mr. P -
Nothing about the Biden's though. Bob
They basically let everyone think they were alive for days, all for political gain.
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Don McManus: 30129235836187/comments/30129297418907
This will be an interesting process as government around the world decide to react to this event. There are going to be those folks that protest the potential for disturbing the Titanic grave site with additional wreckage, and there will be those that seek to protect their citizens from the risks associated with going down to the ship in anything other than a fully tested and approved submersible.
Hopefully governments will recognize that the bargain basement approach by OceanGate opens the site to the moderately wealthy and that insisting upon the expense of a fully tested and governmentally approved vessel would price all but the very wealthy from the opportunity to see the wreck. People should have the right to chose their destiny. If a $ 250K option is available, there are probably 6 million Americans who could afford it. Were that price raise to $ 1 million plus, and would probably be required were the government to insert itself, the opportunity would be denied to a wide swath of people who may be willing to take the risk.
In short, lets hope that the nanny state does not enact restrictions that prevent the very opportunity that these people chose.
It will be very difficult, in my opinion, to regulate. Not only are the operating areas in international waters, but companies like the one involved in this incident will use a “Flag of Convenience” to skirt flag-state regulations. For example, if the U.S. enacts regulations on U.S. submersible vessels, a company will just register their vessel in a less restrictive flag state (e.g Liberia).
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Frogdog: 30129235836187/comments/30129276631963
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It will be very difficult, in my opinion, to regulate. Not only are the operating areas in international waters, but companies like the one involved in this incident will use a “Flag of Convenience” to skirt flag-state regulations. For example, if the U.S. enacts regulations on U.S. submersible vessels, a company will just register their vessel in a less restrictive flag state (e.g Liberia).
Yep, cruise lines have been doing that for decades. regulations, taxes, labor laws,etc….
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Frogdog: 30129235836187/comments/30129276631963
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11398560#Comment_11398560
It will be very difficult, in my opinion, to regulate. Not only are the operating areas in international waters, but companies like the one involved in this incident will use a “Flag of Convenience” to skirt flag-state regulations. For example, if the U.S. enacts regulations on U.S. submersible vessels, a company will just register their vessel in a less restrictive flag state (e.g Liberia).
Agree , but common sense will prevail in the larger companies. No exceptions if you screw around enough you can kill yourself and liability for those in your care
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Rocky Raab: 30129235836187/comments/30129260095387
They'll never find any bodies unless one somehow got caught in the debris. Otherwise, they have been drifting in currents now since Sunday.
At least it was quick. At most, they may have heard the first crackling of the graphite giving way, but that would have been far less than a second from first failure to implosion. "Never knew what hit them" is entirely apt.
Creepy to think about what unknown deep sea eels or monsters will eat the bodies
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It is easy to say that "they" knew it imploded in real time. Yes, the US Navy heard sounds that were consistent with an implosion. Now some facts: Hearing what might have been an implosion does not guarantee that it was an implosion - there are lots of things like undersea volcanoes that produce sudden loud sounds. Second, even if you could be sure it was a sub that imploded, it does not tell you which sub. That area of the ocean is a highway for Russian subs. (That's why we have that listening net there. Duh.) Third, even if your intelligence is so good that you knew exactly which sub, and where, you would not broadcast that your systems are so good that you DO know all that. There are still some secrets.
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Rocky Raab: 30129235836187/comments/30129290757147
It is easy to say that "they" knew it imploded in real time. Yes, the US Navy heard sounds that were consistent with an implosion. Now some facts: Hearing what might have been an implosion does not guarantee that it was an implosion - there are lots of things like undersea volcanoes that produce sudden loud sounds. Second, even if you could be sure it was a sub that imploded, it does not tell you which sub. That area of the ocean is a highway for Russian subs. (That's why we have that listening net there. Duh.) Third, even if your intelligence is so good that you knew exactly which sub, and where, you would not broadcast that your systems are so good that you DO know all that. There are still some secrets.
Regardless of what U.S. systems are actually capable of….. perhaps a great public affairs opportunity to keep the world wondering whether they ARE that good.
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Exactly.
And to answer the ones who ask why they kept searching when they were fairly sure of the result immediately, I ask in return: what if they had not searched at all, and the damn thing washed up in Ireland three months from now still sealed?
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Sorry, but if the Titan (submersible) imploded as they say, there are no body's to be found. They are in little bitty pieces, never to be recovered.
All in all, a much better way to go, than languishing on the seafloor for day's-freezing and running out of oxygen while trying not to panic.
If it indeed imploded at depth as they are indicating, they never knew what hit them.
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what about teeth or bones? or their rolexes I wonder what they do find..
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Unless some bit of something got snagged in the debris, there will be nothing found. They'd have been torn asunder and borne away in the three knot current down there. Chunks of them could be 500 miles from there by now.
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