A sub is lost with five souls on board
Two and a half miles down, it does not sound good for the crew.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-rescue-mission-underway-newfoundland-canada/
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As I see it these deep water submersible are more or less just experimental vehicles. That’s the whole idea of experimental, to find the flaws. They choice to go into the danger zone in an experimental craft and it failed.
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Imploding is not necessary. A pin hole leak at depth would fill and pressurize it before anything could be done.
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Frogdog: 30129235836187/comments/30129272318619
Just read a story about a lawsuit with the company from an employee allegedly fired because he wouldn’t certify the vessel to the depth they wanted. Said the “viewing dome” was only rated for 1300 meters, but the tour company was insisting on taking it to 4000 meters.
Now, I ain’t an engineer…. but that sounds like a bad idea.
Wow! Here it is, start on page 9.
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No engineer here also, but a 'viewing dome' seems like a bad idea at those pressures. I remember seeing a documentary about the Trieste, and diving the Mariana Trench. It had one portal of cone shaped plexiglass around 6 inches thick. Naturally, the smaller id of the cone towards the viewer so that the pressure pushes the cone towards the hull, in fact sealing it tighter.
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Warbirds: 30129235836187/comments/30129227414683
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11398333#Comment_11398333
Wow! Here it is, start on page 9.
https://static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2023/06/19718164828.pdf
Wow is right. Pretty damning. Why the heck do you hire an expert and then not listen to him?
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I read this morning that they hear banging noises. I hope it’s not too late. I wonder if they still have the trained dolphins used for submarine rescue?. I saw a show on them once and they could locate and put a cable on it in no time.
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Excellent news.
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Last I read they can not verifie or locate the noise the planes sonar picked up using the underwater equipment on site searching
Sounds like back to square one
At least theee billionaires two are father and son and another. reported to be part of the five on board
Even with kind of money I cannot image paying 250k for the claim and thrill? Of going to see it in person
just me the odds of dieing outweigh a possibe glimpse and that was a maybe
But every one has the right to choose how to spend their money
As for taxpayer part in recovery cost as some have brought up
I would wager its peanuts to the cost of the hundreds maybe thousands of shooting and violet crime in the big cities the taxpayers as in the wotking class fund and Pay out evey month
for hospital emergency services and police time spent not counting court cost and jail time and LEO life's
not to forget and all the illegals and welfare we have to support
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Even if the sounds they are hearing are from the sub, they still have to actually find it and then come up with a way to affect a rescue. Except that there is only enough air for another day. Zero time is 8 am ET Thursday.
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gjshaw: 30129235836187/comments/30129227707675
I read this morning that they hear banging noises. I hope it’s not too late. I wonder if they still have the trained dolphins used for submarine rescue?. I saw a show on them once and they could locate and put a cable on it in no time.
Dolphins can’t dive to such depths. Not even 1/10th what the sub was supposed to be going to.
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I was hoping he was kidding about dolphins.
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A Navy Capt. (Submarine Rescue/Recovery Specialist) involved, said realistically, he gives them about a 1% chance of recovery.
Not very good odds.
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allen griggs: 30129235836187/comments/30129255831579
The report says that if the support vessel is directly above, they could send short text messages back and forth. Is this by Iphone? That's weird.
If they were attached by cable, not only could the cable retrieve the sub, but it also would provide secure communication.
but imagine what 13,000 feet of cable alone would weigh.
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Sounds like several specialist vessels were in the area and are on scene. One is a deep sea pipe laying sub with its own robotic submersible that cant quite go that deep but pretty deep. Another ship has a submersible that can go that deep. I think they were making some sort of cockeyed plan about rigging one submersible to the other that has a robotic arm with the first one attached to a ship or something. Seems like a definite long shot but they need to find it first. I do believe the noise they heard is them as it was done in intentional intervals. Can't imagine how dark and cold it would be down there.
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shootuadeal: 30129235836187/comments/30129258304155
Sounds like several specialist vessels were in the area and are on scene. One is a deep sea pipe laying sub with its own robotic submersible that cant quite go that deep but pretty deep. Another ship has a submersible that can go that deep. I think they were making some sort of cockeyed plan about rigging one submersible to the other that has a robotic arm with the first one attached to a ship or something. Seems like a definite long shot but they need to find it first. I do believe the noise they heard is them as it was done in intentional intervals. Can't imagine how dark and cold it would be down there.
Pitch black and water temps in the 30s
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I've been trying to care about this story, but I'm just jaded I guess.
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96 hours of oxygen is under optimal conditions. And this, from a Reuters article about tracking some sounds, was presented pretty much as a footnote: "officials cautioned the sounds may not have originated from the vessel"
The false hope being spread by the news outlets is absurd. The sub is gone and with it the people on board. Let the families and friends grieve.
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"The false hope being spread by the news outlets is absurd. The sub is gone and with it the people on board. Let the families and friends grieve."
Agreed. Well spoken>
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bigcitybill: 30129235836187/comments/30129245365147
"The false hope being spread by the news outlets is absurd. The sub is gone and with it the people on board. Let the families and friends grieve."
Agreed. Well spoken>
Absoutely.
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Zero hour for onboard oxygen was 8 a.m. Eastern this morning. Not mentioned is the fact that they probably had no food or water aboard, either.
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I predict that will now search for another 48 hours just to be charitable. Then, about noon Saturday, they will declare it lost.
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Just heard that they found some sort of debris field in the search area.
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Press briefing scheduled for 3 pm . Doesn't look good .
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Debris near the Titanic shouldn't be a surprise. Unless they find something like the forward dome, it isn't conclusive.
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All aboard were well aware of the risk and believed that the history and uniqueness of the trip were worth that calculated risk. One can only hope that they died at peace with their decision.
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The debris pieces were identified.
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We'll know more about that in an hour or so.
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Men are constantly on a quest to learn new things. Columbus got on a little boat and sailed west into the unknown, worked out pretty well.
Americans walked on the moon, one of the greatest feats in history, but 3 astronauts were killed on the launch pad in a fire. And we know how close Apollo 13 came to disaster.
Men, and much more so men than women, are constantly seeking out dangerous tasks and trying to explore new worlds.
Were these guys fools, or were they intrepid explorers?
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allen griggs: 30129235836187/comments/30129296527259
Men are constantly on a quest to learn new things. Columbus got on a little boat and sailed west into the unknown, worked out pretty well.
Americans walked on the moon, one of the greatest feats in history, but 3 astronauts were killed on the launch pad in a fire. And we know how close Apollo 13 came to disaster.
Men, and much more so men than women, are constantly seeking out dangerous tasks and trying to explore new worlds.
Were these guys fools, or were they intrepid explorers?
*rich fools
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Briefing live on CBS Boston. Watch it on YouTube
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