Big 3 UAW strike
The big 3 offered a package that included a 20% pay raise.
Unions walked out. Demanding 40% increase over 4 years.
I’ll watch it closely for sure.
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Glad I bought my new truck yesterday
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Glad I don't need a new truck.
Joe
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Bubba Jr.: 30061340379419/comments/30061340513947
Glad I don't need a new truck.
Joe
I am guilty of having more of a want than a need
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To pull up a quote from a former member, "I couldn't possibly care less. I am trying to care less and I just can't seem to get there." Kevd18
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It's amazing how brain washed they are, as they are basically forced into cutting their own throats by their Unions. They're donating to have big brother make their own cost of living higher, then trying to work themselves out of a job by driving the cost of their products even higher so the public won't be able to afford a new vehicle...
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I'm glad UPS didn't strike, because I sometimes receive parcels from UPS.
That the actors, writers, and so on went on strike, and now the UAW is on strike, does not affect me in the least.
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Most of the liberal professors at the institutions of higher learning say we need more unions. Excuse me, pretty soon no one will be able to afford a new vehicle let alone pay the shipping on a firearm purchase. Thankfully, i have a like new truck. -----------Ray
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Quote; pretty soon no one will be able to afford a new vehicle
For me, pretty soon already happened quite some time ago!!
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I listened to some UAW workers on the picket line yesterday. Their biggest complaint seem to be they needed the raise 40% account of inflation. Let me see if I have this right. Joe said he was going to shut down the fossil fuel industry before the election. Automobiles run on fossil fuel, but yet they voted for Joe because their unions said he was a better choice for them.
As I see it, they give them the raise 40%. Price of American made cars goes up. Company passes the 40% raise on to the price of the car, people can’t afford them. Stock holders put their money somewhere else account of company loosing money, company goes under and shuts down, and workers loss their jobs. JOE WINS. And when it’s over the workers will blame Republicans and still vote Democrat. I’m confused.
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I listened to Geriatric Joe the other day say that the Big 3 weren't sharing enough of the profits with the workers. I wonder if he knows about the record breaking profit sharing checks given out to the union members?
"This yr, Stellantis staff will get a median of $14,760, General Motors staff will get a median of $12,750 and Ford staff will get a median of $9,176. The Stellantis and GM payouts are report highs."
I realize they probably don't compare to his 10% for the big guy checks, but they ain't nothing to sneeze at. Bob
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Government sending billions to them, the Big 3 for electric autos for their agenda. What if that spicket is turned off? If the Repubs ever take back anything it might then out to drift on the open sea.
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40 to 70K for a half ton pick up now. What will the prices be when the strike is settled? My father retired from GM and told me I did good buying my first Nissan.
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dunbarboyz: 30061340379419/comments/30061302934043
40 to 70K for a half ton pick up now. What will the prices be when the strike is settled? My father retired from GM and told me I did good buying my first Nissan.
That's 70 dollars a pound!!!! I'm not paying that!!!
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In 1969 I paid $15,300 for my house. It is now accessed for $392,000. Mostly blood and sweat improvements. Just got school tax bill for $4,000. Total taxes over $7,000. Would be closer to $10,000 were I not a veteran.
Three years ago my 2020 Ram listed for $66,000. Wonder what this truck list for today?
Not a financial genius or expert on inflation but i know something just not right here.
Have lived in my house 54 years. In 2074 wonder what this 54 year old Ram will be worth because i darn sure won't be able to afford another one.--------------------------Ray
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I bailed out of a Union mainly because they always throwed their support to the people that I would not vote for and my union dues were just going somewhere (to a unknow place) and I needed that money I was wasting for groceries and kids in school.
I figured out how to take care of myself and not hide behind a Union or have a Union speak for me.
Unions are listening to a supporting Brandon and Brandon is with them, telling them what they WANT TO HEAR just to get their vote.
But It's going to backfire on all. (the workers and Brandon) All them Auto employees are not going to be needed when Brandon does away with them fossil fueled vec's and brings on the EV's.
China will most likely make most of the EV's for the USA. (due to Brandonomics.
They can't seem to see the forest for the trees.
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I quit buying UAW products 20 years ago and have absolutely no regrets.
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I bet the dealerships will gladly add another $10K to MSRP on these vehicles during the shutdown. Just like they did during Co-vid.
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The inevitable result will be either robots or shipping manufacturing out of the country. Those high-paying UAW jobs will be gone. (But the union bosses will continue to make CEO salaries.)
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Rocky Raab: 30061340379419/comments/30061343733147
The inevitable result will be either robots or shipping manufacturing out of the country. Those high-paying UAW jobs will be gone. (But the union bosses will continue to make CEO salaries.)
You hit the nail on the head.
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The politicians like to say they will bring back manufacturing jobs from other countries but the truth is more manufacturing jobs have been lost due to automation than anything else.
1. Many Manufacturing Jobs Have Become Automated
Manufacturing jobs are on the decline because there is more automation in the industry every year. Technology has helped make manufacturers much more efficient in producing products. However, because technology has made things more efficient, there are fewer jobs in the field. With the help of automation, one person can do a job that may have required multiple workers in the past.
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Robots get no wages, no overtime, no vacation, no medical, no retirement, and never go on strike.
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Rocky Raab: 30061340379419/comments/30061289444251
Robots get no wages, no overtime, no vacation, no medical, no retirement, and never go on strike.
Yep, they're coming whether the workers strike or not, so they might as well get while the gettin's good.
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Horse Plains Drifter: 30061340379419/comments/30061289604507
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11411191#Comment_11411191
Yep, they're coming whether the workers strike or not, so they might as well get while the gettin's good.
And electric vehicles require far fewer workers to assemble/build. But those are the vehicles politicians are pushing for as they campaign saying they are for the worker 🧐
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Horse Plains Drifter: 30061340379419/comments/30061289604507
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11411191#Comment_11411191
Yep, they're coming whether the workers strike or not, so they might as well get while the gettin's good.
So the union is accelerating the business case to automation and offshore labor.
Got it.
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Me thinks the UAW is about to shoot themselves in the foot long term.------------Ray
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Here in the south if you even said the word union you would be fired.Nothing struck fear in textile mill owners than the thought of having to pay a living wage. Now all the textile mills have gone to third world countries.
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A big pay raise doesn't do much for them when the jobs are moved out of the country! Talk about a way to get more Chinese vehicles brought into the country, strike. Who in their right mind would ask for a 42% raise, plus work 32 hours get paid for 40 hours.
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Will they get paid for a year when biden shuts the country down for 2024 election?
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yoshmyster: 30061340379419/comments/30061345218459
Will they get paid for a year when biden shuts the country down for 2024 election?
You get a 'LOL' for that but with the "funny, not funny" caveat.
Unions are a thing of the past. They were needed 100+ years ago when corporations truly took advantage of people. These days, that doesn't happen here largely because there's so little manufacturing in America but also because companies and facilities can't hide their atrocities anymore. Information (and disinformation) is everywhere and immediate. And social media is better representation than the UAW. Cheaper, too.
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Kevin, my sweetheart Diane was Office Administrator in Dean's office and former Secretary for Dean at West Point. She never joined the Union. Years ago they had a employee that was trouble with a capitol "T". Darn near killed my wife for two years. It takes almost a Act of God to get rid of or lateral transfer a member of Civil Service Employee's Union.
After the Army and a short stint as a machinist I worked for the Association of Graduates, USMA for 41 years. They treated me with respect and I was so fortunate and proud to work for them. If they did not like my performance, they would have kicked me out the door. Never once felt like I needed a Union to protect me. I was not a Civil Service Employee.---------------Ray
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