Going to have to sue someone....I swear, what is wrong with people these days?
I have a few pawn shops that call me when they need some cash, so I'll go in and buy" the available inventory when they call. I end up with a pile of mid to low end items along with a good thing here and there. Its all good on my end, I'll make money on these things....but I stay covered up with consignment items so this pile can grow to be a pretty significant number of guns at times.
I put a few of them in a local store.....he is a small dealer and could really use the filler. The agreement was that I would recover my investment and we would split the profit 50/50. He paid me some money and sent over a spreadsheet that I couldn't make any sense of. I told him I needed him to mark my list so I knew what he was paying me for. I gave him some more items. He gave me some more money.
He was very personable and seems like a decent person when you talk to him. I've got money coming to me...all is good, but I still don't know what items were being paid for. I introduce him to a wholesale dealer and I tell him I'd like to roll the money coming in from the items I bring into items that I buy from this avenue. This is me taking my used items I don't have time to deal with and letting him take MY money to buy new inventory....splitting the profit along the way on everything I have paid for. He spends $5000 of my money on inventory using the sales of my used items.
I didn't hear from him for a couple weeks, when I fiinally do he informs me he has been on vacation and was closed for over a week. I'm miffed.....but I push on without saying what I want to about that nonsense. Any NEW gun store that closes for an entire week for vacation during the fall does not have their head in the game. So, I see his posted schedule shows he is supposed to be there Saturday and I text him that I'm coming by.
He is not open that day.....grrrrr. He sends me a text saying he will be there Monday and I can come pick up what I brought to him. I ask if he is shutting down, he says no. I tell him I'm going to pick up the items I've paid for that were from our other deal as well, because I don't want any lingering ordeals pending with him. He tells me I am not going to get that, he is only turning over the initial inventory. So, now I see he is a different creature altogether and he is planning to try to screw me over.
I don't know what has happened to this guy, but some kind of brain damage has happened....because when I go there Monday to pick up my items he says I need to pay my rent before I can have my inventory. I go ballistic and tell him exactly what I thinik of him. He tells me I have to leave, but he will give my items to my empoyee (who I brought with me) and a friend that I brough who is a police officer. In the end we got a small pile of things.....when I tally up the missing inventory he owes over $12,000.00 I sent him a text letting him know the minimum he owes me....that is me just collecting what I have in the items, no profit. He sends some nonsense saying how much "rent" I owe which is some crazy figure per gun which magically tallies up to be what he owes me.
I swear, this is not going to pan out for him at all. I have plenty of evidence, he will also have attorney fees and court costs when this is done. I'm sure he is not going to stay open, he has probably been using my inventory to keep afloat for a bit. My goal is to be first in line to get what I can from that sinking ship.
This was a perfect little set up for him to make some easy money....but he is obviously a moron.
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Mention calling the ATF and see what he does.
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toad67: 30055719036315/comments/30055719122715
Mention calling the ATF and see what he does.
I've always thought less of people that wield the ATF name around. I don't need the ATF to handle this, I'm certain his days are numbered without any input from the ATF. I just want my money or inventory that is comperable in value....which is doubt he has.
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Good Luck I hope you get all you are supposed to, plus an aggravation fee.
Joe
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Stating the obvious that's a kick in the face
just a question Even if the court awards you the money is not up to you to collet
or maybe the court will say due to hard ship or some other bs he can pay 50.00 a month or some other amount to keep the court off his back
I know little about such things just what I have heard along the way
I do hope the best for you and the lawyer fees don't exceed what you mananage to get
Money and greed and desperation makes people do bad things
he may have started out with good intentions then got over his head and started drowning taking you with him
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You nailed it Kasey, the guy is a "Moron."
*I started a seperate thread, (trying not to hijack yours Kasey.) "What would you have done?" about another "Moron" I had words with yesterday.
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This whole ordeal will not affect me. I'm doing very well with my main focus, which are my auctions. I was just trying to get a side gig going to handle things and me not have to be involved. If he had been above board this could have turned into a real golden goose situation for him. If it had panned out I would have most likely put some of the good stuff in there as well that I own. Over the years I've purchased all kinds of items from stores and people.....he is so stupid to mess this up in such a brazen mannor.
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Try convincing a Judge in civil court with what you wrote...the old saying "possession is 9/10 of the law" is still pretty much the law until you can prove otherwise, the proof is on you and I hope you have documentation to prove the agreement.
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The proof will be recorded in the dealer books.
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Moron is not an endangered species.
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chiefr: 30055719036315/comments/30055748756379
Moron is not an endangered species.
But unfortunately they are an invasive species.
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He doesn't sound like a moron to me. He sounds just like a con man. I hope you recover all plus more!
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Most good Con Men seem to be genuinely "Nice People." It is advantageous to them getting what they want.
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Junkballer: 30055719036315/comments/30055748526363
Try convincing a Judge in civil court with what you wrote...the old saying "possession is 9/10 of the law" is still pretty much the law until you can prove otherwise, the proof is on you and I hope you have documentation to prove the agreement.
This guy doesn't know who he is messing with. I've got record of everything. He has even sent me his own spreadsheets where he tried to show me what items he had sold and how much profit we were splitting up. I also have word of at least one gun he sold "off the books" ...just paid someone for a Glock, turned around and sold it to another guy in the store without logging it in or anything. I'm100% convinced he is in over his head.
Spoke with a lawyer today.....the ball is rolling on this getting messy.
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If he's that deep into you then imagine the what the others he deals with are feeling, it'll take some time for the process to work through the system, hopefully just a letter from your lawyer will juice him up. If he doesn't have deep roots in your neighborhood don't be surprised if he moves onto another location making it harder on everybody involved with him. Good luck, keep us informed, some here may learn from your experience. Once a deadbeat.....always a deadbeat 😠.
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What a mess. I'm sure you'll come out ahead, but sorry you have to deal with it. Been said before, what a hobby. Hugs to you.
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God must love morons ............... he made so many of them.
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I hope he has any money left so you can recoup what he owes you
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My uneducated guess is that he is totally broke and doesn't not have any monies to settle with you. Just has the markings all over it. You kept him floating and then sinks it.
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