Outdoor Pay....the update to the system is coming, a big change ahead
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I have to agree with some of the folks that have posted, only time I bought from GB with a credit card was if the seller didn't add and additional fee, And restaurants that try to charge more I no longer visit or make sure I have cash, Yes it is a convivence and somebody has to pay, but it won't be me...
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NeoBlackdog: 30054752890011/comments/-1
The way I see it, this will lead to a net loss of sales for GunBroker. Lots of folks don't like paying with a CC, and some just flat won't. I look for sellers that take checks or MO's so I don't have to deal with the credit card fees.
Alot of folks in our discipline don't like CCs because of the supposed "tracking" by certain entities.
Although I have, and will, use both, my preference is to keep my affairs as private as is feasible.
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@GB Marketing There are some valuable comments in this thread. Not sure if you're a part of the change or not, but I'm sure you're at least aware of who is.
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Ambrose: 30054752890011/comments/30054793250971
I am one of the "ribbon clerks" that pays with a personal check, cashier's check, or money order. I n the case of a firearm, I send a copy of the invoice together with check and file copy of my dealer's FFL. So I guess I'm out. Taxes, fees, shipping, transfer fee, and now payment processing (CC) fees takes a lot of the fun out of it.
A really underrated comment here- The cost advantage GB had for many buyers is evaporating as the ancillary costs are equal or greater to the local brick & mortar store.
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Go to a live gun auction and see what the fees are. Buyers premium, sellers premium, transfer fees, etc.
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Ruger4me: 30054752890011/comments/30054768731291
I have to agree with some of the folks that have posted, only time I bought from GB with a credit card was if the seller didn't add and additional fee, And restaurants that try to charge more I no longer visit or make sure I have cash, Yes it is a convivence and somebody has to pay, but it won't be me...
Amen, if the seller didn’t benefit from taking CC they would not take them. They know it increases their sales.
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All those fees
Yep Local Auction tomorrow. 10 % buys premium. + State Tax + $ 20.00 for each firearm transferred.
Ouch ! And have to travel 20 miles to pick up even if I'm a Dealer.
Think I'm going just to see what folks will pay.
I'll wear my Shop's Jacket and hand out Cards. Might get Kicked out ??
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Looks like you will need to have a card on file to buy things, since it mentions that it will eliminate NPB's on fixed and BIN auctions. That will be an interesting point for sure. When shipping got so expensive, it put me out of the sellers market here for the most part, but this just might be the end of both sides for me.
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The previous owners were shrewd business people that provided a good & needed service. They also knew when to sell out and make a huge profit proving just how shrewd they actually were. I could actually write more on this subject but I'd probably be banned from here.....so that's all I'll say.
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Credit cards do have some very real advantages including travel points, and buyer protection, and I do use mine (one is enough), but in the end I will be paying all those fees, in addition to those soon to be added. Non starter for me.
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I've bought apprx 30 here, over the years. (5-6 under my Brothers Accnt., before I had my own E-mail.)
I do not like the changes presented, for many of the reasons listed above.
(I spent apprx $4K on GB, last year.)
*For what that is worth.
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I quit selling on a popular auction site when they started to require payment via paypal 20 year ago. They never stopped adding layers upon layers of fees, hassles, & requirements after that, thus I've never sold on there since, and maybe bought two hard to find $20 items since then.
This appears to be the last of the good old days. At least I can say "I remember when.........."
Sad to see this unnecessary turn of events. 😪
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Is there a sign up link for this service as a seller?
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I will also voice my opinion that I am very much against this and it will be detrimental to both our gunbroker sales and the overall sales on GunBroker.com.
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This not for me for various reasons. I will not buy from Gunbroker ever again unless something changes with their new process. Once my current auction for a few bullets is over I won't be selling either. I've also just received a request for drivers license info and a utility bill from Gunbroker to "verify" who I am immediately followed by a $7.00 charge to my Visa.
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It would be amazing if they will offer a way to discount shipping automatically for multiple item purchasers along with the new platform.
I realize that it's probably a misguided opinion that some buyers have that they prefer to send payment through the mail to avoid privacy issues but it's going to disappoint a certain number of long term customers who simple want to avoid credit cards for whatever reason.
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I don't like the fact that they will have a finger in your bank account for buy payments, have to set up small account if I stay
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No one has a finger in my bank accounts, nor will they.
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Many brick-and-mortar gun shops have closed in NY, leaving a buyer to look online, and usually end up on GB. With the cost of selling, the new fee to sell, sales tax, and GB fees, coupled with the ever-increasing shipping firearm sales are going to tank.
I have been in business for 43 years and am watching my customer base shrink, and doing lots of transfers from online sellers other than GB. The sellers are consumer direct and sell for pennies over what I pay for a product. The end is near.
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been doing the business 42 years just renewed ffl might be my last
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Lots of complaints on other forums about this. I hate to say it but I think I'm done buying from the auction side.
Look at all the fees on my most recent purchase:
That's almost $100 over the price of the auction. You still have to add $20 transfer on top of that.
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