Where the heck is Hedog
Been a long time since I've seen him post. Hope he is well.
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He posted a few days ago, but yeah, he's been too quiet.
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An Oglala warrior.
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allen griggs: 29937811145499/comments/29937819432603
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Ab Oglala warrior.
does he have Hedog?????????
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Probably out collecting, hope he returns soon.
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I've really missed @He Dog there are a couple of threads asking about him❤️
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On my feed he just clocked in w/some heavy herpetology 411 one post down from here.
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The original HeDog was an Oglala warrior, and a friend of Crazy Horse.
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A man that will step aside for a snake might as well walk.
Capt. Woodrow F Call
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Jim, that make no sense whatever. You cannot step aside unless you are walking.
I have walked down trails and picked up snakes that the first 10 or 12 people stepped over without seeing. In 3 countries. For the record, I never stepped aside for a snake under 12 feet in length. At 14 feet, I ran like a thief. How about you Jim?
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He Dog: 29937811145499/comments/29937808443163
Jim, that make no sense whatever. You cannot step aside unless you are walking.
I have walked down trails and picked up snakes that the first 10 or 12 people stepped over without seeing. In 3 countries. For the record, I never stepped aside for a snake under 12 feet in length. At 14 feet, I ran like a thief. How about you Jim?
First hognose snake I ever saw/caught was at Boy Scout Camp Texoma. we were running down a trail toward our quarters. The scout ahead of me, well-known for his keen eyesight, ran right over the snake, lying in plain sight on the trail. I caught it, and immediately fell in love with genus Heterodon. Camp counselors would not let me keep it. They put it in the snake pit, where all non-venomous snakes caught during camp time were put. They said all those snakes would be released at the end of the season.
OK, someone is going to point out that the hognose is mildly venomous. Even though that wasn't discovered until recently, I believed my snake was venomous, even though the reptile experts at the camp said it was not. I saw it with its mouth open and it definitely had fangs. Some years later, a herp discovered I was right and published a paper.
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He Dog: 29937811145499/comments/29937808443163
Jim, that make no sense whatever. You cannot step aside unless you are walking.
I have walked down trails and picked up snakes that the first 10 or 12 people stepped over without seeing. In 3 countries. For the record, I never stepped aside for a snake under 12 feet in length. At 14 feet, I ran like a thief. How about you Jim?
Good to see you posting my friend!! 😁
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Thanks Lady Rae, he dog don't really live here any more.
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David, my dear friend, the original publication was by a fellow, not unlike you, who kept herps at home. he was feeding his hognose snakes, eastern hognose as I remember, a meal of toads. He was handling the feeder toads and when he went to move one of the snakes to a separate enclosure for feeding, it bit him, hanging on and chewing. he recorded the signs and symptoms and the indications he recorded were consistent with classic invenomation. Later, some other researchers, inspired by his publication of his experience, worked on the biochemistry of hognose snake invenomation, and found the venom of hognose snakes was mildly effective on humans, and deadly for toads.
I have probably handled more than a dozen individuals of two species of hognose, totally well over 100 times without ever having a single indication of a bite. They are as you know, not aggressive. The rear fangs are a sure indication to the informed of venom, while the preceived head shape is essentially meaningless.
Hey dude, gonna be in Tulsa?
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Are we allowed to say "heck" here?
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Mr. Perfect: 29937811145499/comments/29937820541595
Are we allowed to say "heck" here?
Hell no! Don
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dcon12: 29937811145499/comments/29937791950363
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Hell no! Don
Watch your mouth, or Don will kivk your butt! Wait...
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He Dog: 29937811145499/comments/29937791813659
David, my dear friend, the original publication was by a fellow, not unlike you, who kept herps at home. he was feeding his hognose snakes, eastern hognose as I remember, a meal of toads. He was handling the feeder toads and when he went to move one of the snakes to a separate enclosure for feeding, it bit him, hanging on and chewing. he recorded the signs and symptoms and the indications he recorded were consistent with classic invenomation. Later, some other researchers, inspired by his publication of his experience, worked on the biochemistry of hognose snake invenomation, and found the venom of hognose snakes was mildly effective on humans, and deadly for toads.
I have probably handled more than a dozen individuals of two species of hognose, totally well over 100 times without ever having a single indication of a bite. They are as you know, not aggressive. The rear fangs are a sure indication to the informed of venom, while the preceived head shape is essentially meaningless.
Hey dude, gonna be in Tulsa?
Can't make Tulsa. Just me and the dogs here, and if I'm gone there is no one to care for them.
I remember the article referenced, just not all the detail. I do seem to recall that someone dissected a hognose and found the venom glands, right?
I have handled a few hognose snakes, and like you, I have never been bitten. Short-struck at, yes; bitten, no.
A friend has a Western that he bought at a pet store. He feeds it thawed-out frozen mice, but not toads.
If I lived a little further north or east, where there are toads, I might try to keep a captive Eastern.
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The dissection followed a publication detailing two bites to a guy who was keeping hognose and handled toads, then the snakes. Classic signs of envenomation. We always knew they were ophistoglyphs, the fangs are visible in an open mouth. The venom glands are modified Duvernoy's glands, further back in the head than classic venom glands and sacs.
Sorry we will miss you, I do get being the only one to feed the critters.
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Mr. Perfect: 29937811145499/comments/29937820541595
Are we allowed to say "heck" here?
no, but you can print it………….
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hillbille: 29937811145499/comments/29937809447579
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no, but you can print it………….
Actually, you can't print it either …… but you can type it. 👍️
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